How come you get strong lads/men lifting big weights but they cant lift there own body weight ie cant do pull ups? Im female and can do pull ups so can lift my own body weight yet I don't think I could lift heavy weights/barbells.
Probably cause they weigh a lot as well. But more importantly, certain movements require other things apart from muscle size - balance, co-ordination, efficient neuromuscular activation etc. Which is why you may have a strong deadlift, and a strong military press, but try and do a snatch without any training and you'll probably fail miserably even with **** all weight
It comes down to strength to body weight ratio, Boxers for instance tend to excel at pull ups as they have a very high strength to body weight ratio (as they need speed, reflexes, endurance and functional strength) where as weight lifters have a very low strength to body weight ratio due to the focus being on size and non-functional strength.
It comes down to strength to body weight ratio, Boxers for instance tend to excel at pull ups as they have a very high strength to body weight ratio (as they need speed, reflexes, endurance and functional strength) where as weight lifters have a very low strength to body weight ratio due to the focus being on size and non-functional strength.
I think you mean powerlifters. I'm sure any decent weightlifter is able to do a pull up.
All it comes down to is, they can't because they don't. If they tried every day, the same muscle fibres would be worked and soon enough they'll be able to do at least one.
It comes down to strength to body weight ratio, Boxers for instance tend to excel at pull ups as they have a very high strength to body weight ratio (as they need speed, reflexes, endurance and functional strength) where as weight lifters have a very low strength to body weight ratio due to the focus being on size and non-functional strength.
What's non functional strength? And why would weightlifters focus on size?
It comes down to strength to body weight ratio, Boxers for instance tend to excel at pull ups as they have a very high strength to body weight ratio (as they need speed, reflexes, endurance and functional strength) where as weight lifters have a very low strength to body weight ratio due to the focus being on size and non-functional strength.
I think you mean powerlifters. I'm sure any decent weightlifter is able to do a pull up.
Sorry i should have been clearer, power lifters probably struggle more than weightlifters when doing pull ups due to the nature of their training however weightlifters who train to compete at a competitive level such as Olympians are still going to struggle to do pull ups when compared to other athletes as their training focuses on explosive strength and in particular they carry a lot of weight in their legs which in regards to pull ups is a huge hindrance.
What's non functional strength? And why would weightlifters focus on size?
Functional fitness is generally considered to be a combination of strength, flexibility, endurance(muscular & cardio), balance, agility and speed(reaction time/reflexes), weightlifters although have very high levels of explosive strength don't work on any of the other 5 aspects as at the competitive level that's what they need to win, by non functional strength i meant strength without any of the other aspects of fitness being worked on. In regards to size it is very similar, having a low strength to body weight ratio isn't an issue for say someone looking to compete in the worlds strongest man competition as they aren't required to do activities like boxing or gymnastics. Their field is a much more specialized form of athleticism.
edit: to answer OP, people who have good strength compared to bodyweight can do bodyweight exercises easily.
Strength to body weight ratio (also known as strength-to-mass ratio) is worked out by determining the maximum amount of weight you can lift at one time (squats for lower body, bench press for upper body), you then divide this by your body weight which gives you your upper and lower ratio. The videos you posted are not useful as i don't know how much you weigh.
Strength to body weight ratio (also known as strength-to-mass ratio) is worked out by determining the maximum amount of weight you can lift at one time (squats for lower body, bench press for upper body), you then divide this by your body weight which gives you your upper and lower ratio. The videos you posted are not useful as i don't know how much you weigh.
You can infer how much the guy weighs from the ratio he posted! It's like, rearranging the equation! THE STUDENT ROOM!!!!! HOLLA!
Edit - also the 2nd video says how much the guy weighs
Edit 2 - ratios are stupid anyway and so is your post
You can infer how much the guy weighs from the ratio he posted! It's like, rearranging the equation! THE STUDENT ROOM!!!!! HOLLA!
Edit - also the 2nd video says how much the guy weighs
Edit 2 - ratios are stupid anyway and so is your post
The ratios he posted are wrong for a start, 3.5 x 242 does not equal 815. The second video was posted over a month after the first, his weight has probably changed in that time.
But If we work off the second videos weight and assume he was the same when he did the squats that would put his lower body index at 2.1, which in fairness isn't bad and only 0.4 off 2.5:1 ratio which is considered to be good however this is without factoring in his upper body.
Whether or not you think strength to weight ratios are stupid is irrelevant, for weightlifters then yes they are stupid and you shouldn't pay attention to them however in response to the original question of why weight lifters struggle to do pull ups the strength to body weight ratio helps to highlight the cause,
Functional fitness is generally considered to be a combination of strength, flexibility, endurance(muscular & cardio), balance, agility and speed(reaction time/reflexes), weightlifters although have very high levels of explosive strength don't work on any of the other 5 aspects as at the competitive level that's what they need to win, by non functional strength i meant strength without any of the other aspects of fitness being worked on. In regards to size it is very similar, having a low strength to body weight ratio isn't an issue for say someone looking to compete in the worlds strongest man competition as they aren't required to do activities like boxing or gymnastics. Their field is a much more specialized form of athleticism.
You don't think weightlifters work on flexibility, muscular endurance, agility or speed
You think strength athletes have a low strength to body weight ratio
The ratios he posted are wrong for a start, 3.5 x 242 does not equal 815. The second video was posted over a month after the first, his weight has probably changed in that time.
But If we work off the second videos weight and assume he was the same when he did the squats that would put his lower body index at 2.1, which in fairness isn't bad and only 0.4 off 2.5:1 ratio which is considered to be good however this is without factoring in his upper body.
Whether or not you think strength to weight ratios are stupid is irrelevant, for weightlifters then yes they are stupid and you shouldn't pay attention to them however in response to the original question of why weight lifters struggle to do pull ups the strength to body weight ratio helps to highlight the cause,
It came out as 3.3, I just rounded to 3.5 for simplicity. Isn't bad? Did you not watch the video? Ratios become pretty much useless here. 500lbs x 15 reps at 230lbs (I think that's what he is in the vid) is far more impressive than a 300lb squat x 15 reps at 150lbs even though the ratios are near the same. I'm sure olympic lifters have weight classes so being a certain strength at a certain bodyweight does matter. Actual strong weight lifters don't struggle to do pull ups in most cases.