Should doctors/nurses wear a full veil?

I wouldn't be deprived of eye contact, facial expression, or body language by a doctor wearing glasses.

I don't care if you believe this is not a problem for you, it would be for me. Frankly it comes back to an utter lack of empathy as I already said, your belief that this is a non-issue is naive at best.

Neither does a veil




In reality,you probably are just another file to them - particularly when you're seeing a doctor who has broken the same bad news to hundreds of different people. If they formed an emotional relationship with every patient they treated, they'd be in a constant state of depression after watching them all get illnesses and pass away. While they might present a certain persona, after many years of doing the job they tend to (or rather have to) become emotionally detached.

I fully agree, it complicates the relationship a doctor has with their patient especially at face value. Yet would this deter would be excellent doctors who wear a veil?

Not in every day life no. As a surgeon, quite possibly so

True, but glasses only cover eyes and don't prevent eye contact was what I was going for.

While true in some cases, then when you have a long term condition, you get to know the doctors treating you, and the doctors know you. I am not saying you go down the pub with them or anything, but you are more than a number or file as far I have seen; both in my own case and in the case of various people who I know who also have long term conditions. Even if what you said is true, it is nice to be presented with the image of them thinking of you as more than a file at least.

It's not pandering, it's respecting their freedom to practice their religion, something the constitute protects. .

Once again, even as a surgeon, the veil is not a health risk. Here are surgeons;



That's basically the niqaab with a few modifications, but not much difference.

There's a limit to how much empathy people should get. It's one thing to speak words of kindness and offer advice and help to someone who's just received bad news. It's another to give them the authority to decide what you wear, based on what makes them feel best emotionally.

"I've just received bad news, so now you have to obey every command I give you about your personal decisions, because it will make me feel better emotionally. If you refuse then you lack empathy." - seems a bit extreme.


Besides don't you think someone must be lacking in empathy if they're going to force veil-wearing women to uncover their faces or risk losing their jobs, when to them, it's not decorum to show your face freely in public to anyone who asks to see it (the equivalent of going up to a western woman and demanding that she shows you her cleavage)?

Don't look then. Nobody's forcing you to stare at these oh-so slutty children.

Since I'm not part of a primitive culture that systematically objectifies women, I perceive a difference between exposing facial features and exposing sexual characteristics.

I know - but the point I'm making is this: It might be true that you don't want to hear that you have cancer from someone who isn't showing you their facial expressions. But that isn't sufficient reason to force them to show you their facial expressions - because you wouldn't want to hear that you have cancer from anybody, under any circumstances really.

When you say "I wouldn't want to find out I have cancer from someone who [insert some criterion here]", it's the part of the sentence that I've highlighted in bold which is operative.



I agree - but if the patient is such that, they feel that anyone wearing a veil for religious reasons doesn't care about them at all and thinks of them as a file, while this is not the case for people who don't wear a veil, I would say that the problem lies in their attitude rather than that of the doctor.

It's just a matter of common sense to know that there is no link between whether or not someone wears a veil for religious reasons, and whether or not they care about helping you with your illness.

Wouldn't touch such sluts with a barge pole, but if you ask for it, someone will soooner or later give it you.

Its like opening all your windows and doors and leaving the house, coming back to find it burgled. Just because you left your house as a prime target doesn't mean anyone had the right to take your stuff, but if you ask for trouble, do everyone a favour and don't cry when it comes calling.

I have to, otherwise I cause too much distraction to drivers and the likes with my stunning looks

so what is your reasoning here islamically -a mugger will mug someone walking in the street -is that person then to blame for walking outdoors? Are you saying muslim men learn that they are thieves and rapists at heart, and only presenting them with shrouded women and locked doors inhibits their learnt characteristics islam is teaching? I can walk past an open door and not rob the house. I can also meet a women not wearing a sack and treat her like a human being too -why haven't muslim learnt how to do this in 1400 years?

No not everyone but some mugger will take your stuff if you leave your house unprotected. likewise not everyone but some sexual predator, 'muslim' or otherwise will **** you if you dress as a slut.

If you ask for trouble, you will get it,