America will train Neo-Nazi &#x27;Azov&#x27; Battalion in Ukraine

Better than helping the rebels.

Reply 2

Manitude

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I think America is faced with an option of training a militia that you don't really like or sit back and let a world power invade a country on the border with Europe. It's not an ideal situation but it's got to be better than doing nothing.

Plus politics in Ukraine aren't the same as here - extreme right views are much more common (at least that's my observation).

Reply 3

whorace

Wtf. No one should train Nazis, the fact there are Nazis on the rebel side at all makes them questionable.

Reply 4

OP

Original post by Manitude

I think America is faced with an option of training a militia that you don't really like or sit back and let a world power invade a country on the border with Europe. It's not an ideal situation but it's got to be better than doing nothing.

Plus politics in Ukraine aren't the same as here - extreme right views are much more common (at least that's my observation).

So you train paramilitary Neo-Nazis when you could just train the Ukrainian armed forces ?

Where's the logic in that ? Doesn't matter whether they like them or not America backs Nazi elements and a government supporting nazi elements this should be headline news everywhere.

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Reply 5

OP

Original post by PowelliteScum :)

Better than helping the rebels.

If from one day to the next Neo-Nazis fought alongside the US military what would your reaction be ?

Reply 6

PowelliteScum :)

Original post by Rovey

If from one day to the next Neo-Nazis fought alongside the US military what would your reaction be ?

I don't like neo-Nazis siding with the USA?

Reply 7

OP

Original post by PowelliteScum :)

I don't like neo-Nazis siding with the USA?

But you don't mind America collaborating with Neo-Nazis against Russia ?

Reply 8

The Dictator

Original post by Manitude

I think America is faced with an option of training a militia that you don't really like or sit back and let a world power invade a country on the border with Europe. It's not an ideal situation but it's got to be better than doing nothing.

Plus politics in Ukraine aren't the same as here - extreme right views are much more common (at least that's my observation).

Um, the options are not so limited. They can always train the regular armed forces, or simply authorise NATO intervention. But their President is weak, helpless and incompetent, so he will end up blundering into more conflict later on, and doing almost everything possible to undermine his own position.

Reply 9

PowelliteScum :)

Original post by Rovey

But you don't mind America collaborating with Neo-Nazis against Russia ?

No, I do mind. But America collaborating with them and keeping them under the thumb is better than letting them run riot.

Reply 10

Fullofsurprises

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The Kremlin is spending very large amounts of money on spreading misinformation globally about Ukraine, some of which is working. So it's sometimes hard to be sure of any alleged facts coming out of Ukraine, Russia or surrounding countries.

However, given that the US military journal, Stars and Stripes, has confirmed this story, it seems to be correct!
http://www.stripes.com/us-forces-to-hold-exercises-in-ukraine-1.337639

Pretty bizarre stuff. The Azov are basically like Jean Marie le Pen was put in charge of the Household Cavalry and persuaded them to don the symbols of Vichy France.

Reply 11

OP

Original post by PowelliteScum :)

No, I do mind. But America collaborating with them and keeping them under the thumb is better than letting them run riot.

Run riot ?

We're talking about a state-funded, Neo-Nazi paramilitary force. They already are running riot.

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Reply 12

The Dictator

Thank God the Eastern Ukrainians have seceded from this mess.

Reply 13

ChaoticButterfly

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Original post by Manitude

I think America is faced with an option of training a militia that you don't really like or sit back and let a world power invade a country on the border with Europe. It's not an ideal situation but it's got to be better than doing nothing.

Right up to the point the nut cases you supplied guns crash a plane into your trade centre.

America also has a strong history of funding fascists.

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Reply 14

MatureStudent36

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Original post by whorace

Wtf. No one should train Nazis, the fact there are Nazis on the rebel side at all makes them questionable.

Nobody other than pro Putin sock puppets is calling them Nazis.

Reply 15

MatureStudent36

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Original post by ChaoticButterfly

Right up to the point the nut cases you supplied guns crash a plane into your trade centre.

America also has a strong history of funding fascists.

Care to share?

Reply 16

Davij038

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Original post by The Dictator

Thank God the Eastern Ukrainians have seceded from this mess.

I know right! Nothing like the presence of a thousand armed Russian soldiers to ensure a fair referendum.

Reply 17

Davij038

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The azov battalion are unpleasant nationalists that hate Russia only slightly more than they hate the EU. They are allegedly good fighters though which Ukraine will need if it is to survive the Russian onslaught.

Reply 18

The Dictator