No need to get upset.
First, I agreed with you that PhD-level training and support was department-specific. When you showed that it was Biochem, I showed you a clip from Cambridge Engineering (my field)
I did not give any incorrect information. In my first post, I specifically stated that there was training support in 1+3 (i.e. 4 year) programmes. For example, Doctoral Training Partnerships (DTP) and Centre for Doctoral Training (CDT) usually have 4 year programmes managed by BBSRC & EPSRC, where the first year is formed as a Masters training.
When I wrote
'There is no place in the UK, that I know of,that offer direct PhD route without a masters training.' That was what I meant because the places I knew, had a CDT or DTP pathway that incorporated training. Of course, I did not claim that all universities had the same system, that was why I wrote that there is no place that I know of.
Here is
Warwick [and
here] that states that students undergo training as part of their first year on the CDT programme and UCL that states that researchers receive 14 weeks of taught training of core modules as part of a cohort (same CDT pathway).
Link for
Oxford,
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4 I was just trying to help the OP with some information on other potential pathways that are probationary. I did not want the OP to think that they have to do a Masters degree, when there may be opportunities for them through Doctoral Training Partnerships and programmes.
If you think that I am lying on this thread, then I withdraw all I have written.
Since you are the boss of this forum, I will refrain from further posts. I just wanted to save myself before leaving.