Article in the times..how dare nurses want to get degrees!

Actually...



Hardly 'some journalist'.

I think the two can come hand in hand, my first year has been an education over the importance, the science..and the evidence of giving basic care to a patient and also communication/discussions around the concept of care and compassion. I think in all nurses there is a difference, there is a nurse where i work who is lovely, cares for the patients and wants the best for them- but asks me how to take a MSU from a catheter or to send off a sample! Where as i know myself personally im good academically but practically I can sometimes lack common sense, ie forget sheets when changing a bed, or a flannel lol Theres never going to be a nurse with both sides equal, but its also about recognising your strengths and weaknesses and improving on them- again, something the degree will promote furthur around self development as a nurse

How much has there been recently in the news about abusive nurses/lack of care etc etc I would like to know how it makes any sense to complain about nurses...the majority of which were taught under the old system...then a minute later say that the nursing profession shouldnt change and we should continue to train people in the 'old way'.

Also surprise surpise that a doctor wrote this article, how about he adresses the massive issues in his own profession before bitching about other peoples.

I think the major problem lies in the profession not supporting itself. The recent whistleblowing case, the nurse was initially struck off by the NMC via her methods of reporting it, even though it led to an increase in better care in that area, she was the one who got penalised. Luckily, she appealed and has been reinstated, but the profession has this huge divide between old/new nurses, and don't support each others personal development, or when there is someone witnessing bad practice and the other wants to report it, will others back her up? no way!

Nurses, along with other allied health professionals, are exactly that: Professionals. Surely that dictates a level of education to degree standard at the very least!

So we should expect nurses to break their backs by lifting heavy weights? And when since when do nurses not clean up?

traditional training was not fit for purpose

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Since they got HCAs.

(That's not generally true, it's a relatively small number who let the side down)

well you would wouldn't you

the sentiment that traditional training was not fit for purpose has been expressed by many traditionally trained nurses...

the same arguement is being played out again current with paramedics and their preparation for practice - it wasn't played out with ODP training moving to HE and ODP registration because the ODP profession had seen the changes and benefits that had happened in Nurse education ...

I wonder if JPS has got beyond being a cross between a character in Johnny Briggs (my mother who's a nurse ...) and a seagull ?

I see that you still have that chip on your shoulder. I guess you should get it seen to rather than spending time messing with the kids on forums. Don't you have friends your own age to play with?

Nurses bitching at each other, what a rarity.

fail ....

How?