Three quarters of employers 'require 2:1 degree'

Bad times. All the more incentive for me to study further then!

It's irrelevant, surely?

What was said, as over-zealous and short-sighted as it may seem, was completely correct. Better to realise it before, rather than after university.

The downfall however, as with the whole recruitment process, is that 2.2 candidates with great experience may lose out to 2.1 candidates with little experience. But you have to draw the line somewhere as recruitment is a costly business

Good for you.

This country is a mess.

Give it 10 years then come back, for now, run while you can

It's obvious to you of course, but who says it's obvious to everyone else? There's a lot of oversensitivity when it comes to informing people about university and job entry generally. Teachers just spout warm, fuzzy crap like "Do a degree you like. Study at a uni you like. Employers don't mind. Everything's lovely in the grad market!!". Seriously, throughout your life, they say that stuff constantly, trying to appease and make the students feel good rather than inform them. Students have got to know it's not gonna be easy.

Teachers don't give you the straight facts which are, "The graduate market is a tough place for most people. Take every advantage you can get, and if you don't get a 2:1, the graduate market will turn from 'tough' to 'absurdly difficult' to succeed in".

So you may think ISA's posts are stating the obvious, but they are really not.

It makes life easier, imo, if you:

*Get a 1st
*Study a traditional/academic/"proper" subject
*Study at a good institution
*Obtain relevant work experience
*Do summer placements/interships

I like to imagine that degree subject and university are taken into account in addition to the degree classification. I've got a 2.ii, but it's in maths from Cambridge and it is no exaggeration to say that a 1st at many universities in many subjects would have been a cakewalk for me.

Well, it's not surprising, is it?

It makes life easier, imo, if you:

*Get a 1st
*Study a traditional/academic/"proper" subject
*Study at a good institution
*Obtain relevant work experience
*Do summer placements/interships

Degree classification was more widely used as a selection criterion than relevant work experience (34%) or degree subject (33%) or going to a particular university (7%).

This.

How the hell is a 1st from Oxford the same from Oxford Brookes/Thames Valley or whatever?

What exactly is the problem with employers wanting people who got good grades at university?

Yes, but she is a kid not even doing A levels




Just annoying little snobbish kids commenting when even attending uni is a long way off. Yes, she made some obvious points.