Congratulations to Palestine

Bulletin: Preliminary results indicate that Hamas have swept to victory.

Given the EU, US and Israel's refusal to cooperate with a government containing Hamas, how will the peace process fare in the future?

Reply 22

Nightowl

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Malaysia feels that this is a dark day for the campaign for peace in the middle east. However, we hoped that the major powers of the world, especially the US, would at least try to cooperate. Never has Hamas had any responsibility, we need to see how they react to it before we make any rash judgements. We can not let this setback hamper the progress that has been made in recent years.

Malaysia wants a deal which will be fair on both sides, Malaysia asks how we can do this without all sides at the table.

We hope the UN will come to a decision that is fair, and hopes the UN will now serve its purpose, to promote security, and fairness throughout the world.

Reply 23

The UAE would like to congratulate the Palestinians on a successful election and electing a strong government that would bring more support to their citizens. At long last this election shows what the Palestinians truly believe and would force Israel to make peace with Hamas. And if the Eu stops funding Palestine, then the UAE would take their place.

Reply 24

Lone Fox

digitalparadox

At long last this election shows what the Palestinians truly believe

That they don't want a peaceful two-state solution but want to annihilate Israel?

digitalparadox

And if the Eu stops funding Palestine, then the UAE would take their place.

That would make a change. In the past the Arab world has championed the palestinian cause but has always been remarkably shy when it comes to actually giving them any money.

Reply 25

NeverMindThat

digitalparadox

The UAE would like to congratulate the Palestinians on a successful election and electing a strong government that would bring more support to their citizens. At long last this election shows what the Palestinians truly believe and would force Israel to make peace with Hamas. And if the Eu stops funding Palestine, then the UAE would take their place.

Holland notes that alienating the US would destroy the UAEs economy.

Furthermore UAE has effectively offered to sponsor terrorism.

Holland calls for the UN to condemn such a move.

Reply 26

Wootcannon

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Ukraine, although supportive of the Palestinian's achieving democracy, requests and hopes that Hamas will commit itself to democracy and renounce terrorism. Failure to do this will alienate the international community and will make the Ukraine extremely reluctant to negotiate anything with Palestine.

Reply 27

Lone Fox

That they don't want a peaceful two-state solution but want to annihilate Israel?

Yep if thats what the Palestinian people want then it just emphasises how much Israel is burden on the Palestinian people. Afterall, even the population that don't go round blowing themselves up still voted for them because they know that hamas at least provides them with aid.

That would make a change. In the past the Arab world has championed the palestinian cause but has always been remarkably shy when it comes to actually giving them any money.

The Arab world give the Palestinians lots of money for hospitals and healthcare services and they are not shy about it - Its just they boast about it in their own language which you don't hear about.

Reply 28

NeverMindThat

Holland notes that alienating the US would destroy the UAEs economy.

Furthermore UAE has effectively offered to sponsor terrorism.

Holland calls for the UN to condemn such a move.

As for the economy issue - the USA needs us more than we need them, with one of the largest oil reserves in the region and the largest gas reserve.

If terrorism is defined as killing 'innocent' people then likewise Israel (which USA supports) could also be counted as a terrorist state as they have killed more Palestinian civilians than Palestinians themselves.
If you think Israel is 'immune' from killing innocents then remember their past:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/779444.stm

Reply 29

There have been reports of aid agreements with Palestine being reconsidered/revoked in the light of this. In my view withdrawing aid will make life worse for the Palestinian people, and a decreasing standard of living is probably what got Hamas such a level of support in the first place. But what is YOUR country's stance on such deals and agreements with the new Palestine?

Reply 30

Lone Fox

digitalparadox

Yep if thats what the Palestinian people want then it just emphasises how much Israel is burden on the Palestinian people.

Israel was far less of a 'burden' before Hamas
(and others) started the Intifada. Israel became more of a 'burden' due to the increased terrorism which was carried out significantly by Hamas. So, if people think that Israel is a burden, they should look at who made Israel a burden.

digitalparadox

The Arab world give the Palestinians lots of money for hospitals and healthcare services and they are not shy about it - Its just they boast about it in their own language which you don't hear about.

Really, perhaps you could source this. The little they give is not even close to what the EU and US give.

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Agent Smith

There have been reports of aid agreements with Palestine being reconsidered/revoked in the light of this. In my view withdrawing aid will make life worse for the Palestinian people, and a decreasing standard of living is probably what got Hamas such a level of support in the first place. But what is YOUR country's stance on such deals and agreements with the new Palestine?

The agreements are not with 'palestine', they are with the 'Palestinian Authority'. And considering that the PA is now controlled by a terrorist organisation proscribed by the US and EU, funding the PA is now clearly a major problem for them.

Does the SG really want Hamas deciding what millions upon millions of dollars are spent on, because the Marshall Islands suspects it might very well be bombs and guns.

Reply 31

Refused

Agent Smith

There have been reports of aid agreements with Palestine being reconsidered/revoked in the light of this. In my view withdrawing aid will make life worse for the Palestinian people, and a decreasing standard of living is probably what got Hamas such a level of support in the first place. But what is YOUR country's stance on such deals and agreements with the new Palestine?

Argentina welcomes the outcome of the fair and democratic election. As Hamas depends on EU funds, I believe they will be able to change some of the violent tactics for more democratic options, at the end of the day they'll have no choice. But one thing they will not change is their prime objective of freeing the Palestinian people.

It is not a case of the Palestinian people voting in a militant group but instead, voting out a corrupt party who have failled them on many occasions. While the Fatah-led PA where spending millions on unnecessary intelligence, it was Hamas who provided food, shelter and clothes to the people. If you look from their perspective, it was clear who their vote was going to.

Reply 32

Socrates

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The Islamic Republic of Iran congratulates Hamas on their handsome victory.

Reply 33

Lone Fox

Does the SG really want Hamas deciding what millions upon millions of dollars are spent on, because the Marshall Islands suspects it might very well be bombs and guns.

The representative for the Marshall Islands has me at a loss. I don't recall ever expressing support for Hamas.

Reply 34

Lone Fox

The Marshall Islands was asking whether the SG thinks it's advisable for millions of dollars of foreign aid to be handed to a proscribed terrorist group.

Reply 35

NeverMindThat

digitalparadox

As for the economy issue - the USA needs us more than we need them, with one of the largest oil reserves in the region and the largest gas reserve.

If terrorism is defined as killing 'innocent' people then likewise Israel (which USA supports) could also be counted as a terrorist state as they have killed more Palestinian civilians than Palestinians themselves.
If you think Israel is 'immune' from killing innocents then remember their past:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/779444.stm

If terrorism is defined as cabbages then my greengrocer is a warcriminal.

You are pussy footing around the issue; You appear to support HAMAS' use of suicide bombing, shootings etc as a legitimate pressure applicaiton tool.

If this is the case, I call for the UN to condemn your statements

Reply 36

Wootcannon

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Ukraine reminds certain members that we are debating the issue with other countries, that we are not representing our personal views, only the foreign policy of our countries, and that we are not insulting the other countries or calling into question their views. Also, condemn is a rather strong word, and in this context is extremely rash and irrational.

Ukraine would just like to point out two things to assist countries who were looking for sources, or more information:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4656872.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4652866.stm

There are many links on the right-hand side of these pages, with further information on this situation.

Reply 37

Nightowl

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Malaysia thanks Ukraine for reminding members of their role, not to present their personal view.

In that light, Malaysia would like to make it's position clear:

We would like to congratulate the President of Palestine on the sucessful organisation of the elections and would like to congratulate Hamas on their success in the recent election, and hope this new respoinsibility will lead them to renounce violence.

We are happy the Palestinian people have united in the true spirit of democracy, the World should duly accept the result. We would like the countries directly involved in the Middle East process to work hand in hand to find a peaceful solution. We do not believe this can be achieved by integral members refusing to negotiate with one of the two disputing bodies.

Reply 38

NeverMindThat

If terrorism is defined as cabbages then my greengrocer is a warcriminal.

You are pussy footing around the issue; You appear to support HAMAS' use of suicide bombing, shootings etc as a legitimate pressure applicaiton tool.

If this is the case, I call for the UN to condemn you.

The UAE did not state that Palestinian militants are not wrong in their suicide missions, but we merely pointed out that it could be argued that Israel is just as bad. The UAE feels that many nations are brainwashed into the USA ideological thinking that if a country claims to be democratic and developed they get away more easily with war crimes when killing non-combatants. Yes, Israel may have a right in the Middle East but if they claim to be less militant, then they can at least show it by even attempting to make peace.

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