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Original post by jengrim
Hi Jess,

I was just wondering how Freshfields approach the issue of mitigating circumstances? Is there a section in the application forms for this. I got a 2.1 in semester one of my first year, but in semester 2 due to mitigating circumstances I did pretty badly.

I was wondering what to do when applying for the Law Workshop or the International Workshop, as I know it says about writing a statement and then also including your CV, but should I include mitigating circumstances in my statement, or email them separately, or does Freshfields just not accept mitigating circumstances?

Sorry for the rambling and I know this is pretty early to ask about it as applications don't open for a month or two, but I just wanted to know in advance.

Thank you!


Hi there,

On our application form (vacation scheme and training contract), we have the following section:

Please mention anything further which you think is relevant to your application, for example any mitigating circumstances or specific requirements you may have, otherwise, please enter 'n/a'.

This allows anyone to provide details of mitigating circumstance should they choose to include them on their application form.

For those applying to the workshops or First Year Focus Programme, I would advise that they include the details in their covering letter.

My hint/tips for anyone with mitigating circumstances is to keep the details brief, concise and factual. Focus on what the circumstances effected rather than the circumstances themselves. Although it is often a emotive subject, try not to get emotional when describing the circumstances (e.g. try not to use emotive language).

I hope this is of help.

Kind Regards

Jess
Original post by uktrainees@freshfields
Hi there,

As a first year, we would direct your non-law application to the First Year Focus Programme anyway.

Most people who applied to the FYFP last year had no legal work experience. We will be looking for people with good academics, strong extra-curricular activities and those who are able to demonstrate their interest in a career in law (work experience is not the only way!).

Please do include other work experience and volunteering on either your CV or covering letter as these are likely to demonstrate the type of skills and qualities we would look for in an applicant.

We look forward to receiving your application in February!

Kind Regards

Jess


Thank you very much for your help :smile:
Hi Jess,

I'm about to go into my second year studying Chinese and Spanish, and am thinking I might do a Masters to improve the level of my language. Would this be likely to negatively impact my ability to get a TC? Would there be any chance of the firm sponsoring me through the course?

Thanks.
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Original post by uktrainees@freshfields
Hi there,

On our application form (vacation scheme and training contract), we have the following section:

Please mention anything further which you think is relevant to your application, for example any mitigating circumstances or specific requirements you may have, otherwise, please enter 'n/a'.

This allows anyone to provide details of mitigating circumstance should they choose to include them on their application form.

For those applying to the workshops or First Year Focus Programme, I would advise that they include the details in their covering letter.

My hint/tips for anyone with mitigating circumstances is to keep the details brief, concise and factual. Focus on what the circumstances effected rather than the circumstances themselves. Although it is often a emotive subject, try not to get emotional when describing the circumstances (e.g. try not to use emotive language).

I hope this is of help.

Kind Regards

Jess


Thanks Jess, that's brilliant. And thanks for the extra hint/tips, I do tend to get a bit carried away explaining, so I'll curb the urge to do that!

Thanks again!
Hello,

I'm a potential applicant (coming from a non-law background), and as such want to make my application as strong as possible. However, I've made two potentially foolish module choices for my first year studying English: Creative Writing and Film Studies. I will be studying these two modules alongside the compulsory four which tend to be viewed as more traditionally academic. Would this choice of modules be considered a blot on my application?

Thanks in advance!
Original post by theorientalist
Hi Jess,

I'm about to go into my second year studying Chinese and Spanish, and am thinking I might do a Masters to improve the level of my language. Would this be likely to negatively impact my ability to get a TC? Would there be any chance of the firm sponsoring me through the course?

Thanks.


Hi there,

It wouldn't negatively impact your chances of getting a TC. Some of our trainees have completed post-graduate qualifications in non-law subjects of their own accord.

However, it is unlikely a firm will sponsor you through such a course, as they would still need to find you through the GDL and LPC which is approximately £30k worth of sponsorship and maintenance grants. Some firms (like us) do provide bursaries to prospective trainees for things like language courses/post graduate study, but ours is only £500-£2,000 depending on what the bursary is for.

Kind Regards

Jess


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Original post by BangOutOfOrder
Hello,

I'm a potential applicant (coming from a non-law background), and as such want to make my application as strong as possible. However, I've made two potentially foolish module choices for my first year studying English: Creative Writing and Film Studies. I will be studying these two modules alongside the compulsory four which tend to be viewed as more traditionally academic. Would this choice of modules be considered a blot on my application?

Thanks in advance!


Hi there,

I wouldn't worry about it at all. Most firms will care more about how well you have done and not what modules you have chosen, plus you have more "academic" modules to show you have potentially developed the analytical skills required to be a lawyer.

Kind Regards

Jess




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Hi Jess,

I've had quite a bit of work experience and lengthy paid employment focusing within a few particular areas of commercial legal work. Subsequently, I have developed a keen interest in one or two of these areas. Ideally, I would like to go into one of these areas after qualification (if I can) and any applications to firms would be based on those that have a good presence within these areas.

Would it be an advantage for me to focus on this desire within my applications or would firms typically see me as too narrow focused in the particular area? Is it more preferable for firms to have a graduate "well rounded" with future aspirations or one with an aspiration of specialising? Whilst I enjoy the work I do, and know it is of good commercial standard, I worry that I wont be seen as someone who will be flexible or enthusiastic about other areas of the firm.

Thank you!
Original post by superfluffy
Hi Jess,

I've had quite a bit of work experience and lengthy paid employment focusing within a few particular areas of commercial legal work. Subsequently, I have developed a keen interest in one or two of these areas. Ideally, I would like to go into one of these areas after qualification (if I can) and any applications to firms would be based on those that have a good presence within these areas.

Would it be an advantage for me to focus on this desire within my applications or would firms typically see me as too narrow focused in the particular area? Is it more preferable for firms to have a graduate "well rounded" with future aspirations or one with an aspiration of specialising? Whilst I enjoy the work I do, and know it is of good commercial standard, I worry that I wont be seen as someone who will be flexible or enthusiastic about other areas of the firm.

Thank you!


Hi there,

It will depend on the firm you are applying to.

If the core and the majority of their practice is aligned to the work you have done, then you should express your clear interest in that area.

However, if the firm has a much wider practice area and the area(s) of your interest are niche to that firm, then try not to focus on it that heavily. However my advice would be that in reality you should not apply to those firms anyway.

If you have a significant amount of experience in the legal field, then do try and be careful when explaining that experience. At times, with applicants who have a lot of experience, I do question whether they would be willing to work at the bottom of the team or whether they would get restless if they have had more responsibility elsewhere. However, I have seen candidates explain their motivations for doing this well.

For us, we much prefer people to come in with an open mind and not to think "I want to be x type of lawyer" and that's why we have the flexibility of our training contract to support that. However, other firms will want you to be more focused.

I hope that is of help.

Regards

Jess


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Original post by uktrainees@freshfields
Hi there,

It wouldn't negatively impact your chances of getting a TC. Some of our trainees have completed post-graduate qualifications in non-law subjects of their own accord.

However, it is unlikely a firm will sponsor you through such a course, as they would still need to find you through the GDL and LPC which is approximately £30k worth of sponsorship and maintenance grants. Some firms (like us) do provide bursaries to prospective trainees for things like language courses/post graduate study, but ours is only £500-£2,000 depending on what the bursary is for.

Kind Regards

Jess


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Hi again Jess,

That's excellent, thank you. How would I go about applying for a bursary of this kind?

Kind Regards,

Alex
Original post by theorientalist
Hi again Jess,

That's excellent, thank you. How would I go about applying for a bursary of this kind?

Kind Regards,

Alex


Hi Alex,

Apologies for any confusion. The bursary is only available to prospective trainees who have accepted a training contract with us.

Kind Regards

Jess
Hi everyone,

I can't believe it is term time again! We are busily preparing for all our recruitment events on campus... 20 presentation, 35 law fairs, plus many more events to come....

For those of you at UCL or KCL, we will be running events for you next week.

On Tuesday 2 October we will be at the UCL at 6.30pm for our evening presentation. The event will be at the ULU Building.

On Thursday 4 October we will be running an evening presentation for KCL students in our office from 6.30pm (65 Fleet Street, London).

If you are interested in registering your attendance, please visit the following web page:

http://www.freshfields.com/en/united_kingdom/careers/trainees/University-events/

Future presentations are also listed on there.

Regards

Jess
Hi Jess,

I've just signed up to the Bristol presentation, and was wondering whether we'd get more info on the event sent to us by email or if it's somewhere on the Freshfields site that I haven't looked at? :redface:

Thank you :smile:
Original post by FuzzySheep
Hi Jess,

I've just signed up to the Bristol presentation, and was wondering whether we'd get more info on the event sent to us by email or if it's somewhere on the Freshfields site that I haven't looked at? :redface:

Thank you :smile:


Hi there,

Yes - our new website is lacking times and venues for our presentations (sorry - its being updated soon!)....

The Bristol Presentation is taking place on Monday 29 October from 6.30pm onwards at the Bristol Marriott Royal Hotel. You will receive an email from us a day or two before the date, reminding you of the details.

We look forward to seeing you then.

Regards

Jess




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Hi everyone,

For those studying at Aberdeen, Glasgow and UCD, we will be attending your law fairs this week. Please stop by our stand at these fairs if you want to talk to our trainees and people from the Trainee Recruitment team.

Regards

Jess


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Hi Jess!

Before I ask my questions, I just wanted to thank you for the information in this thread--its been quite helpful!

1. How much emphasis does Freshfields place on the verbal reasoning test? Is it cutoff based? Or is the score simply factored in?
2. This is a 'kind-of behind the scenes' question regarding the attendance of law fairs/presentations. Hypothetically, let's say Tom goes to a career fair--he talks with the representatives at Freshfields (or any law firm for that matter) and he asks questions to learn more about the firm. Let's say that during Tom's 5-10 minute chat with a Freshfields rep, the rep liked Tom as an applicant. What happens at this point behind the scenes? Will the rep write his name down and have the application flagged to factor in the chat at the fair/presentation?
3. What advice would you give for someone attending a presentation/fair who has researched a firm thoroughly and does not necessarily have any specific questions...but would still like to chat with the firm?

Thanks in advance!
Original post by SemperParatus
Hi Jess!

Before I ask my questions, I just wanted to thank you for the information in this thread--its been quite helpful!

1. How much emphasis does Freshfields place on the verbal reasoning test? Is it cutoff based? Or is the score simply factored in?
2. This is a 'kind-of behind the scenes' question regarding the attendance of law fairs/presentations. Hypothetically, let's say Tom goes to a career fair--he talks with the representatives at Freshfields (or any law firm for that matter) and he asks questions to learn more about the firm. Let's say that during Tom's 5-10 minute chat with a Freshfields rep, the rep liked Tom as an applicant. What happens at this point behind the scenes? Will the rep write his name down and have the application flagged to factor in the chat at the fair/presentation?
3. What advice would you give for someone attending a presentation/fair who has researched a firm thoroughly and does not necessarily have any specific questions...but would still like to chat with the firm?

Thanks in advance!


Hi there,

Sorry for the delay in coming back to you.

1) The result of the online verbal reasoning test is added to your application. You will not be automatically screened out on the basis of the result. Scores are added to the application and then reviewed alongside of the rest of the form. In particular, we use it as an indicator to support academic achievements or the written style of the application. Ultimately the stronger the score the better though.

2) Tom's applications will not be dealt any differently. It will be flagged up on our system that Tom met us at an event and that the representative thought that he was good. However, we use this more to determine whether it is worthwhile doing those type of events again rather than to influence the decision on the individual's application.

3) My advice would be just to listen to the responses to other students' questions. There is likely to be a mixture of people there that will want to ask questions. If you listen to the questions and the firm's representative's response, it might generate a question in your mind that you do want answered.

I hope that was of help.

Kind Regards

Jess
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Hi Jess,

I was wondering if you would be able to give me some advice regarding how an application would be viewed from someone who has been attempting in the past few years to gain a TC, but has been unsuccessful in two recruitment rounds (I have applied to, but have not interviewed at Freshfields, in the past).

I am a recent law graduate, and graduated recently with an overall 68% average 2:1 degree. I have completed three vacation schemes in London, a work experience placement in a regional firm and have four years of work experience in various commercial roles. I've had a number of TC interviews but have so far struggled to find a firm willing to make me an offer.

I suppose the crux of my question is, would a recruiter like yourself look at my application and think immediately, "it seems strange this person has done three vacation schemes and not received an offer, there must be something really wrong with them," if that makes sense!

Thank you. :smile:
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Original post by TCHunt
Hi Jess,

I was wondering if you would be able to give me some advice regarding how an application would be viewed from someone who has been attempting in the past few years to gain a TC, but has been unsuccessful in two recruitment rounds (I have applied to, but have not interviewed at Freshfields, in the past).

I am a recent law graduate, and graduated recently with an overall 68% average 2:1 degree. I have completed three vacation schemes in London, a work experience placement in a regional firm and have four years of work experience in various commercial roles. I've had a number of TC interviews but have so far struggled to find a firm willing to make me an offer.

I suppose the crux of my question is, would a recruiter like yourself look at my application and think immediately, "it seems strange this person has done three vacation schemes and not received an offer, there must be something really wrong with them," if that makes sense!

Thank you. :smile:


Hi there,

It sounds like this might be your third application for a training contract at Freshfields. Unfortunately we would not expect a third application to be successful since you will have already given it your best shot.

We do allow people to reapply for a training contract once but we wouldn't see the merit in a third application.

If this would only be your second training contract application, then you need to think carefully before reapplying. You will need to ask yourself what is different from your previous application which would make us change our minds (basically would your application form be much stronger than when you first applied).

In regards to those who do reapply, it is really for them to make sure the recruiter does not automatically think "why hasn't this person got a TC yet". It might be best to address this in your application, really demonstrating what you have developed since your vacation schemes and to show your determination for the career. It is those that continue to develop and look for further opportunities that will be looked upon more favourably than those who have not really got any further evidence than what they would have had on their application form when they first applied.

I hope that is of help.

Regards

Jess
I completely forgot to mention that applications for our summer vacation schemes are now open!

We will be running 3 three week summer vacation schemes next summer. Applications are open to penultimate year undergraduates. Applications will remain open until 13 January 2013 but I recommend you apply by the New Year as we do screen forms on a rolling basis.

All applications need to be made via our website www.freshfields.com/uktrainees.

For all those who accept a place on our summer vacation scheme in London, they can then apply for an extra week in one of our international offices. Last year, we sent 19 of our vacation scheme students to either: Brussels, Dubai, Frankfurt, Hong Kong, Madrid, New York, Paris and Washington.

Please do let me know if you have any questions about our schemes.

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