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Should not aborting mentally/physically retarded children be illegal?

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    - They will have to be supported by the state for their entire lives.
    - Incest relationships are illegal to prevent this very thing.
    - They will suffer and have a bad life.
    - Cause parents to suffer and have a bad life.

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    - Life begins at conception and it is therefore murder.
    - They have a right to life.
    - It isn't the state's decision.
    - Lots of great people have been retarded.

    Discuss.
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    But... then how could you have been born in order to make this thread?
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    (Original post by Tommyjw)
    But... then how could you have been born in order to make this thread?
    i don't usually ever say this... but i'm out of rep for today! made me laugh.
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    (Original post by Tommyjw)
    But... then how could you have been born in order to make this thread?
    So do you like this thread or something?
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    (Original post by lambert1)
    Lots of great people have been retarded.
    Probably the least delicate way you could have put that statement.
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    (Original post by najinaji)
    Probably the least delicate way you could have put that statement.
    I don't understand the political correct nonsense associate with the word retarded. It isn't like retarded people even care it is just their wheel chair pushing families that cry about it. The same people that write into the BBC every week because someone called someone an idiot.
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    There is more to it than what you are saying though, abortion lowers your fertility chances as it can cause damage to the reproductive system, although it's only a small chance people just don't want to take the risk. Making it mandatory would be unfair for that reason alone
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    (Original post by lambert1)
    For
    - They will have to be supported by the state for their entire lives.
    - Incest relationships are illegal to prevent this very thing.
    - They will suffer and have a bad life.
    - Cause parents to suffer and have a bad life.

    Against
    - Life begins at conception and it is therefore murder.
    - They have a right to life.
    - It isn't the state's decision.
    - Lots of great people have been retarded.

    Discuss.

    It's a right to have the choice of keeping on a retarded child or not... You can't legislate choice/free will, or else what kind of society would we live in, what would they try legislate next?

    If the parents want to keep the child when they find out it has disabilities, then you can't force them to abort it!

    PS: Not all physically/mentally retarded children are born through incest.
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    (Original post by lambert1)
    For
    - They will have to be supported by the state for their entire lives.
    - Incest relationships are illegal to prevent this very thing.
    - They will suffer and have a bad life.
    - Cause parents to suffer and have a bad life.

    Against
    - Life begins at conception and it is therefore murder.
    - They have a right to life.
    - It isn't the state's decision.
    - Lots of great people have been retarded.

    Discuss.
    Forced abortions by the state (which is really what is being proposed) are a horrific idea. The decision is one that should only be made by the parents with input and advice from doctors. The idea that life is granted or denied on economic grounds is also pretty nasty.

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    So you're saying that we ought to outlaw "disabled" people?
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    (Original post by there's too much love)
    So you're saying that we ought to outlaw "disabled" people?
    that would make an awesome film.
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    you should have been aborted too. i think you were the reason they invented condoms
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    to put it simply/briefly, no...

    edited to make it clearer...
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    (Original post by Dmon1Unlimited)
    im all for pro choice (within reason), but your topic is a bit.............

    to put it simply/briefly, no...
    How on earth is that pro choice? They're advocating forced abortions.
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    (Original post by there's too much love)
    How on earth is that pro choice? They're advocating forced abortions.
    did you read my post?
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    (Original post by Dmon1Unlimited)
    did you read my post?

    the way you put it made it seem like you thought the OP was putting forward a 'pro choice' argument just because it was advocating abortion.

    when it was actually the literal opposite of choice.
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    Well the doctors advising my parents during mum's pregnancy thought that I might've had Down's Syndrome (let's hear it for **** doctors people!)

    Suffice to say I don't, so to throw it into the mix, not all diagnoses of mental or physical retardation are correct. And I'd prefer to not be dead.
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    (Original post by blu tack)
    the way you put it made it seem like you thought the OP was putting forward a 'pro choice' argument just because it was advocating abortion.

    when it was actually the literal opposite of choice.
    fixed it. i would have thought the last line would have made my view clear?
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    (Original post by Dmon1Unlimited)
    fixed it. i would have thought the last line would have made my view clear?
    Yeah your view was clear but the way you put it made it look like 'im pro choice but not THAT pro choice' as if advocating for the OP's idea is a pro choice position.
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    (Original post by blu tack)
    Yeah your view was clear but the way you put it made it look like 'im pro choice but not THAT pro choice' as if advocating for the OP's idea is a pro choice position.
    ah okay
    well its fixed now

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