Girls: Pole Dancing?

No, everyone has not agreed. I'm amazed that anyone can actually believe this, especially when you're throwing the word 'ignorant' around to try to describe other people. Please tell me the similarities between stripping and practising moves fully dressed in a studio, other than the fact that one similar piece of equipment may be involved.

As for type of venue, ours was in a private function suite. The outfits were functional, not revealing. In fact for one routine the girls dressed like the 118 men! And the type of people watching? Their friends and family? How awful.

The OP actually asked if she should join a uni pole society, not if she should get a job dancing for men... Stop being so dramatic.

Sounds awkward.

Why would anyone be learning pole dancing as if it's some kind of abstract dance form without that, or something like it, in mind? It's pretty obvious what pole dancing societies are about. The industry probably paid to help get them set up originally.

Why would anyone be learning pole dancing as if it's some kind of abstract dance form without that, or something like it, in mind? It's pretty obvious what pole dancing societies are about. The industry probably paid to help get them set up originally.

That's the point I'm trying to make, it isn't awkward. The girls aren't uncomfortable performing in front of family and their family aren't uncomfortable watching because they aren't trying to be sexy. It's like a dance routine, nobody would expect that to be awkward with family watching.

Read back over page 6. Even people that had previously been disagreeing all actually admitted that yes, I was basically right, pole dancing is still intrinsically sexually charged by its very nature.

For the 15th time, just because you do it differently in practice does not change the fundamental nature of the activity. I sometimes practice cricket against a bowling machine, not a real bowler, but its still cricket.

Sometimes pole dancers practice in a gym rather than going all the way to the strip club. So the **** what? Its still pole dancing, an activity designed specifically by strip club owners to showcase the flexibility and nubility of their strippers.

The pole dancing society at my last uni was sponsored by the strip club, and the lessons were done with professional strippers.

Again, I don't see anything wrong with this. If you want to make a bit of cash as a stripper, more power to you. I just don't like these pathetic girls who think there is some huge moral divide between what they do (pole dancing) and what strippers do (also pole dancing, but in marginally skimpier outfits).

Nah I don't believe that for one minute. If they "like turning upside down" thereare plenty of appropriate gymnastic activities that don't happen take place in nightclubs with groups of sweaty men watching you do the horizontal splits in tight/non-existent pants. Pole-dancing is pole-dancing - if its was pole gymnastics then it would be called pole gymnastics and it would take place in a gymnasium.

You're going to tell me there's nothing inherently sexual about lap-dancing next and its actually just "lap gymnastics".

Pole dancing doesn't always take place in a club in front of "sweaty men", it is a fitness activity that is great for working different muscle groups. There is nothing sexual about it unless the context, such as a strip club, makes it sexual. People do it in their bathrooms for goodness sake.

Gymnastics with parallel bars? That's fine. Vertical pole? Aw we can't have that it makes you a slut!

If you don't know about the topic you're criticising people for, don't.

As for this, I'm not making a moral judgement but you only have to watch some videos to see that stripper pole dancing and competitive pole dancing are really different. I have nothing against strippers but the routines are just different.

Are you suggesting this is 'just competitive', for the fitness involved, and nothing else to it...

Are you suggesting this is 'just competitive', for the fitness involved, and nothing else to it...

Just curious, if a couple came up to you and it was the bloke who said "I've heard pole dancing is very good exercise, could you talk to my girlfriend about it?", what would you do?

It's a performance so yeah there is more to it than just doing the moves for fitness, it's a show. But if you compare that to the dancing you'd see in a club it just proves the point I made in that quote. Even the video posted earlier (by Cherry I think?) has a lot more stripper moves and you'll see the difference.

It basically supports py0alb's argument. Competitive pole dancing is by definition a performance, is it not?

The parts I mainly object to are his opinions that pole is a glorified form of stripping (yet can't give me a straight answer when I ask him to tell me how they're similar.

You need me to explain how a girl in a strip club doing a pole dancing routine for punters is similar to a girl in a strip club doing a pole dancing routine for friends and family

The only difference is that one is getting paid, and the other is making her parents feel extremely uncomfortable.

And one is dressed, the other is taking their clothes off. I think that's the main distinction between a stripper and anyone else tbh. I'm done arguing with you anyway. All you do is ignore posts or parts of posts that make a valid point disagreeing with you, e.g. SpicyStrawberry's.

And one is dressed, the other is taking their clothes off. I think that's the main distinction between a stripper and anyone else tbh. I'm done arguing with you anyway. All you do is ignore posts or parts of posts that make a valid point but disagree with you, e.g. SpicyStrawberry's.

The fact is, pole dancing will always be sexual, however much you try and claim it isn't. Face it - people will always view you in that way.

There are so many other forms of exercise. Funny how you picked the one which is so highly sexual.

Not true. Strippers in clubs have their clothes on until you give them money to take them off. Most "casual" or "competitive" pole dancer's actually wear very similar outfits to those that a stripper would wear to pole dance in a strip club. Every single video we've seen posted has backed this point up.