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  1. Becca's Avatar
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    The big "Evaluate My Routine" thread
    Post your routine here if you want people to evaluate it and suggest improvements.
  2. nextplanet's Avatar
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    Is this an ok fitness plan for my goals?
    Hi, is this an ok weekly workout plan if I want to both maintain/improve sprint speed and improve my stamina for 5k:

    monday: go for a steady 4 mile run
    Tuesday: weights/strength session - bench press, chins, squats, dumbell exercises,
    wednesday: 50m sprints session
    thursday: intervals - 150m reps steady pace with 1 and half min rest inbetween
    friday:weights/strength session again
    saturday: rest or go for a run
    sunday:50m sprints

    I dont know if Id be doing too much or not, I usually stick with sprints but id like to reach my potential in 5k too.
  3. sil3nt_cha0s's Avatar
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    Re: Is this an ok fitness plan for my goals?
    A woman doing free weights... it's almost too good to be true :eek:

    What dumbbell exercises are these? And why no deadlifts for strength sessions?
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    Re: Is this an ok fitness plan for my goals?
    (Original post by sil3nt_cha0s)
    A woman doing free weights... it's almost too good to be true :eek:

    What dumbbell exercises are these? And why no deadlifts for strength sessions?
    Yea I can only really lift 5 - 7 kg depending on the exercise. I dont want to bulk up too much I think squats are the most important. Ive been doing front raises, lateral raises and curls with dumbells just to stay toned/get a bit of strength.
  5. Daviant's Avatar
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    Re: Is this an ok fitness plan for my goals?
    (Original post by nextplanet)
    Yea I can only really lift 5 - 7 kg depending on the exercise. I dont want to bulk up too much I think squats are the most important. Ive been doing front raises, lateral raises and curls with dumbells just to stay toned/get a bit of strength.
    Substitute the raises for overhead press. Add in something for the hamstrings too.
  6. SEHughes's Avatar
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    Re: Is this an ok fitness plan for my goals?
    Work up to it, and add overhead presses and deadlifts.
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    Workout after SS
    In my procrastination, I've been thinking about what I want to do when I'm done. Ideally I'd want to go on a program that produces both strength and hypertrophy.

    Code:
    Day 1: Strength Work
    	Squats: 3x5 +2.5kg
    	BB OHP: 3x5 + 2.5kg
    	Good Mornings: 3x5 +2.5kg
    Day 2: Rest
    Day 3: Strength Work
    	BB Row: 3x5 +2.5kg
    	BB Flat Bench: 3x5 +2.5kg
    	Deadlift: 2x3 +2.5/5kg
    Day 4: Rest
    Day 5: Beach Work
    	Incline Bench: 3x8
    	DB Flyes: 3x8
    	Tricep Dips: 3x<8
    	Side Lateral Raises: 3x8
    	Front Lateral Raises: 3x8
    Day 6: Beach Work
    	Wide Pull-ups: 3x<8
    	Shrugs: 3x8
    	Curls: 3x8
    	DB Calf Raises: 3x8
    	Front Squat Holds: failure +2.5kg
    	Planks: 3x<1min
    Day 7: HIIT
    Day 8: Rest
    Day 9: Repeat
    That's what I came up with. Any suggestions? Is this routine a pile of crap? I'm thinking of separating the strength days more so I have more time to recover between squatting and deadlifting.
    Last edited by tooosh; 15-05-2012 at 22:20.
  8. Smack's Avatar
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    Re: Workout after SS
    If you aren't gaining muscle then you're not doing Starting Strength.

    http://startingstrength.com/articles...n_rippetoe.pdf
  9. tooosh's Avatar
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    Re: Workout after SS
    (Original post by Smack)
    If you aren't gaining muscle then you're not doing Starting Strength.

    http://startingstrength.com/articles...n_rippetoe.pdf
    Workout after I finish SS, not instead of SS.
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    Re: Workout after SS
    (Original post by tooosh)
    In my procrastination, I've been thinking about what I want to do when I'm done. Ideally I'd want to go on a program that produces both strength and hypertrophy.

    Code:
    Day 1: Strength Work
    	Squats: 3x5 +2.5kg
    	BB OHP: 3x5 + 2.5kg
    	Good Mornings: 3x5 +2.5kg
    Day 2: Rest
    Day 3: Strength Work
    	BB Row: 3x5 +2.5kg
    	BB Flat Bench: 3x5 +2.5kg
    	Deadlift: 2x3 +2.5/5kg
    Day 4: Rest
    Day 5: Beach Work
    	Incline Bench: 3x8
    	DB Flyes: 3x8
    	Tricep Dips: 3x<8
    	Side Lateral Raises: 3x8
    	Front Lateral Raises: 3x8
    Day 6: Beach Work
    	Wide Pull-ups: 3x<8
    	Shrugs: 3x8
    	Curls: 3x8
    	DB Calf Raises: 3x8
    	Front Squat Holds: failure +2.5kg
    	Planks: 3x<1min
    Day 7: HIIT
    Day 8: Rest
    Day 9: Repeat
    That's what I came up with. Any suggestions? Is this routine a pile of crap? I'm thinking of separating the strength days more so I have more time to recover between squatting and deadlifting.
    I'd just do a powerbuilding split. Probs 4 day.

    Monday: Squat and assistance. Do assistance in hypertrophy rep ranges

    Tues: Bench and assistance

    Thurs: Deadlift and assistance

    Fri: OHP, maybe another bench session in different rep range

    Of course, that'd look pretty similar to a bodypart split (legs, chest/tris, back/bis, shoulders/other stuff). I don't think that's a bad thing.

    Still, the routine you've come up with might work. Looks like a similar principle to Layne Norton's Power/Hypertrophy routine:
    http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi...trophy_Routine
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    Re: Workout after SS
    (Original post by tooosh)
    In my procrastination, I've been thinking about what I want to do when I'm done. Ideally I'd want to go on a program that produces both strength and hypertrophy.

    Code:
    Day 1: Strength Work
    	Squats: 3x5 +2.5kg
    	BB OHP: 3x5 + 2.5kg
    	Good Mornings: 3x5 +2.5kg
    Day 2: Rest
    Day 3: Strength Work
    	BB Row: 3x5 +2.5kg
    	BB Flat Bench: 3x5 +2.5kg
    	Deadlift: 2x3 +2.5/5kg
    Day 4: Rest
    Day 5: Beach Work
    	Incline Bench: 3x8
    	DB Flyes: 3x8
    	Tricep Dips: 3x<8
    	Side Lateral Raises: 3x8
    	Front Lateral Raises: 3x8
    Day 6: Beach Work
    	Wide Pull-ups: 3x<8
    	Shrugs: 3x8
    	Curls: 3x8
    	DB Calf Raises: 3x8
    	Front Squat Holds: failure +2.5kg
    	Planks: 3x<1min
    Day 7: HIIT
    Day 8: Rest
    Day 9: Repeat
    That's what I came up with. Any suggestions? Is this routine a pile of crap? I'm thinking of separating the strength days more so I have more time to recover between squatting and deadlifting.
    No reason why you can't do hypertrophy training on strength days. Only 6-9 worksets there, you can afford to throw in a 4x10 on arms/chest or something at the end if you wish.
  12. Khanage's Avatar
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    Re: Workout after SS
    KISS - keep it simple stupid!

    I'd recommend Bill Starrs 5x5 x
  13. tooosh's Avatar
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    Re: Workout after SS
    I guess I can do hypertrophy on strength days. At either extreme (hypertrophy/strength split and bb split) which one would get the better results, considering on both styles progression on the big lifts is 2.5kg/week and maybe 5 on the deadlift? Or does it not matter really. In terms of the h/s split, Layne Nortons looks good but it's 5 day which I don't really want to do. A conventional bb split would be 4 day and would work, but I just don't know which one would be better.

    I looked at intermediate strength programs but they don't fit my long term goals as much. Obviously lifting heavy will get you big but from what I know high rep assistance will get you big quicker.
    Last edited by tooosh; 16-05-2012 at 14:19.
  14. Dark Horse's Avatar
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    Re: Workout after SS
    (Original post by tooosh)
    I guess I can do hypertrophy on strength days. At either extreme (hypertrophy/strength split and bb split) which one would get the better results, considering on both styles progression on the big lifts is 2.5kg/week and maybe 5 on the deadlift? Or does it not matter really. In terms of the h/s split, Layne Nortons looks good but it's 5 day which I don't really want to do. A conventional bb split would be 4 day and would work, but I just don't know which one would be better.

    I looked at intermediate strength programs but they don't fit my long term goals as much. Obviously lifting heavy will get you big but from what I know high rep assistance will get you big quicker.
    I've been weighing up my options for post SS as well, lol.

    I see alot of forum posts when I search Google of people advising trainee's to go onto other strength routines, even if the trainee insists he now wants to focus on aesthetics.

    The Layne Norton routine is good, but again, I don't see the use for "power days" if you're just bothered about aesthetics. And I agree that 5 days is alot and is increase in volume after SS.
  15. tooosh's Avatar
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    Re: Workout after SS
    (Original post by Dark Horse)
    I've been weighing up my options for post SS as well, lol.

    I see alot of forum posts when I search Google of people advising trainee's to go onto other strength routines, even if the trainee insists he now wants to focus on aesthetics.

    The Layne Norton routine is good, but again, I don't see the use for "power days" if you're just bothered about aesthetics. And I agree that 5 days is alot and is increase in volume after SS.
    Are you only bothered about aesthetics? Personally I want both.
  16. Dark Horse's Avatar
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    Re: Workout after SS
    (Original post by tooosh)
    Are you only bothered about aesthetics? Personally I want both.
    Well yeah really. I don't want to compete in Powerlifting and I don't really need the strength for sports performance either.
  17. tooosh's Avatar
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    Re: Workout after SS
    (Original post by Dark Horse)
    Well yeah really. I don't want to compete in Powerlifting and I don't really need the strength for sports performance either.
    Fair enough I guess. I guess finishing SS will make you functionally stronger than anyone except powerlifters anyway.

    I don't really have anything to go for after SS except aesthetics, but still I want to get stronger.
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    Re: Workout after SS
    Boring but Big
  19. tooosh's Avatar
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    Re: Workout after SS
    (Original post by SEHughes)
    Boring but Big
    That looks insane. Definitely considering it!
  20. RawJoh1's Avatar
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    Re: Workout after SS
    (Original post by tooosh)
    Fair enough I guess. I guess finishing SS will make you functionally stronger than anyone except powerlifters anyway.
    LOL.
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