2Day FM (Australian Radio) Prank Call Kate Middleton's Hospital

You're allowed to ask for stuff, even if you know it shouldn't be given to you.

You're allowed to ask for stuff, even if you know it shouldn't be given to you.

"Stuff" maybe. Confidential, sensitive medical information? No.

Errr, no. This isn't even the slightest bit true.

The way I see it, I don't think you see or even have the comprehension of how harmful these sort of things really are; sometimes psychological harm is more harmful than physical harm; why? because you can't see it; you can't touch it; you can't smell it. It's ALL, literally, inside the head. Can you see that chemical imbalance? No. Of course not. But you keep on judging anyway. I gave the physical example because it's something that you CAN see, and yet you have a dismissive attitude towards it. Shame really.
Ignorance will make people say things like, "Owh, she just needs to get over it!". And how on earth would you even know what kind of things she went through? Are you her? Are you God know? I'm not her but at least I know the danger of doing things like these to people. Saying my example is rubbish shows how defensive and out of touch you are with reality.

Because nobody could see is why we don't do things like these to others. This is what we called respect;professionalism;moral, etc. She has a job and a family. Have you ever heard of being responsible for your actions? I'm sorry, but I don't think you even know the meaning of the phrase.

Who are you to make such strong statement like that? Saying things like that shows arrogance and ignorance basically.

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The best is this:

Any stuff, yes.

It was the media who vilified the nurses for letting the call get through, the media who threw this whole hurrah about it and now the media who are looking for somebody else to blame.

Say I call you now, pretending to be your mother of father. I play a little prank. So you think the thought of you or anybody else committing suicide would even cross my mind?

Because there is no link.

I'd imagine that attempting to obtain medical records fraudulently, via deception, is a prosecutable offence or at the very least a very stupid and unfunny thing to do.



Are you forgetting that the radio station itself also falls under the 'media'? The DJ's were also laughing about the 'stupidity' of the nurse all over their radio station, website, and various social media sites. It's the radio station itself that drew the attention of the rest of the world to the prank.



Unfortunately I think you are missing the main point. This isn't someone ringing someone else up and pretending to be his/her mother or father, this is someone ringing a HOSPITAL, and more importantly, a nurse who more than likely works terrible and stressful hours for poor pay. This isn't a case of someone pranking her local shop or bar. It's a hospital. Cheap laughs in exchange for confidential hospital records? I wouldn't even call them 'cheap laughs'. If this is standard Australian humour then i'm glad i'm not Australian.



Even when considering the bigger picture, do you honestly think that this nurse would have still committed suicide if this prank hadn't happened? You cannot deny that the prank played some part in this whole mess. And unfortunately, as someone else has already pointed out, lack of intent does not justify the DJ's behaviour.

How can you claim that there is 'no' link? How can you disprove that the stress of potential disclipinary action/being fired/god knows what else, the nurse was so embarrassed by her poor judgement being played by every news station in the UK/OZ/wider world that she decided to take her own life? I don't know that, you don't know that- and we may NEVER know that. The only person who can verify that there is 'no link' would be the poor woman in question herself, and if even if she could, I feel she would disagree with you.

Nurse embarrassed worldwide for poor judgement. Probably faces being fired. Nurse commits suicide days later. How you can draw a 'no link' inference from this baffles me.

I'd imagine that attempting to obtain medical records fraudulently, via deception, is a prosecutable offence or at the very least a very stupid and unfunny thing to do.

I'd imagine that attempting to obtain medical records fraudulently, via deception, is a prosecutable offence or at the very least a very stupid and unfunny thing to do.

Are you forgetting that the radio station itself also falls under the 'media'? The DJ's were also laughing about the 'stupidity' of the nurse all over their radio station, website, and various social media sites. It's the radio station itself that drew the attention of the rest of the world to the prank.

Unfortunately I think you are missing the main point. This isn't someone ringing someone else up and pretending to be his/her mother or father, this is someone ringing a HOSPITAL, and more importantly, a nurse who more than likely works terrible and stressful hours for poor pay. This isn't a case of someone pranking her local shop or bar. It's a hospital. Cheap laughs in exchange for confidential hospital records? I wouldn't even call them 'cheap laughs'. If this is standard Australian humour then i'm glad i'm not Australian.

Even when considering the bigger picture, do you honestly think that this nurse would have still committed suicide if this prank hadn't happened? You cannot deny that the prank played some part in this whole mess. And unfortunately, as someone else has already pointed out, lack of intent does not justify the DJ's behaviour.

How can you claim that there is 'no' link? How can you disprove that the stress of potential disclipinary action/being fired/god knows what else, the nurse was so embarrassed by her poor judgement being played by every news station in the UK/OZ/wider world that she decided to take her own life? I don't know that, you don't know that- and we may NEVER know that. The only person who can verify that there is 'no link' would be the poor woman in question herself, and if even if she could, I feel she would disagree with you.

Nurse embarrassed worldwide for poor judgement. Probably faces being fired. Nurse commits suicide days later. How you can draw a 'no link' inference from this baffles me.

In other words, you don't know, didn't find it funny, so think it should be illegal. If it's illegal find the law that says so, not just imagining it. Go on.

I notice you didn't want to address the fact that the royal family gave out far, far more information on Kate than the radio station did, but you're not having a go at them.

Any stuff, yes. The hospital is the entity with the obligation to the patient, not some random on the street. Heck, the royal family have more of a moral obligation to Kate than the radio station, and they publicised the facts that Kate was pregnant, was in a specific hospital, had morning sickness and would be there for a while.

If you can't differentiate that with a "radio station", then someone please improve our education system.

I don't think it is. The station had the segment passed over by a lawyer before airing it so I presume it wasn't illegal in any way.

Okay firstly you have completely twisted what i have said. I never said there is no link between this prank call and this woman committing suicide. What I did say is that in the general world, a general case, there is no known link between prank calling people and committing suicide. This was a complete one off, nothing more. How can you consider a consequence that has never happened before?

Yes it would be a massive coincidence for the nurse to kill herself just days after this prank, but what I mean is that nobody has ever been killed by just a prank call.

It's easy to blame the DJ's, they are an easy target, but it is in no way as linear as that.

This woman likely killed herself due to the media going OTT about the whole thing, calling for her to be sacked or punished in some way for an innocent mistake. You can blame the DJ's for making a silly decision to prank call the wrong place, fine, I've said that millions of times. But you can thank the British media for deciding to vilify the nurses and hospital for letting the call get through. Of course, they have changed their tune now. Now watch the DJ's get hounded by the media, they love a target. They'll drive them to depression too, the media has no care for the feelings of the people they publish stories about. They'll drive them into the ground, call for them to get sacked, say what bad people they are. Oh, but we've seen this before, just two or three days ago in fact. Déjà vu.

In other words, you don't know, didn't find it funny, so think it should be illegal. If it's illegal find the law that says so, not just imagining it. Go on.

I notice you didn't want to address the fact that the royal family gave out far, far more information on Kate than the radio station did, but you're not having a go at them.

If you can't differentiate the PR part of the "royal family" from her family then someone please improve our education system.

Your logic is second to none. I didn't find it funny, so I think it should be illegal. Absolutely. *facepalm*



I didn't address it because I couldn't decipher what on earth you were talking about it. Now that you've written it better, I will answer your question. The royal family are just that- FAMILY. If they want to publicly broadcast information about their FAMILY member with her consent, then what could be wrong with that? Why would I, or anybody have a 'go at them' for that?

What information the hospital actually chose to give out isn't important-what's important is that the radio station were trying to get inside information in the first place. Luckily, the hospital didn't give out anything extra. Maybe, even, there was nothing extra too give out. Kate has morning sickness and that's that. That doesn't change the intentions of the DJ's. They were digging for more.

LOL. As if. And even if they did seek legal advice, surely that should have been ringing alarm bells to the DJ's that this prank could have turned sour in some way?

A source confirmed that 2DayFM’s lawyers had listened to audio of the entire call and had given it clearance to go to air.

Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244608/Jacintha-Saldanha-Familys-grief-suicide-nurse-transferred-DJs-hoax-Kate-Middleton-hospital-call.html

'I think prank calls as a craft in radio have been going for decades and decades and are not just part of one radio station or network or country.
'No-one could have reasonably foreseen what ended up being an incredibly tragic day.'

I wasn't aware that the topic of discussion in this thread was 'general pranks'. What a ridiculous statement to make, that in the general world there is no link between pranks and suicide- this case is not a 'general' case though is it? It involves confidential information and already highly stressed and pressured hospital staff. I can't think of another prank where someone/some people have pranked a hospital in an attempt to obtain confidential information about a member of the royal family. Can you? How on earth can you say that just because a prank like this hasn't occurred before and is therefore a one off, that this wasn't a stupid idea of the DJ's? If it's never been done before then even MORE the reason to not do it, because no-one would have known what the consequences would be. Not to mention the fact that the reason it hasn't been done before is because it's completely moronic.

You can 'LOL' all you like, I was right.

What, so you predicted that the nurse would commit suicide? Well done you.

I really don't think you can start linking prank calls to suicide. Yes she may have had other issues in her life and what not, I don't doubt it, but if the media had just left the story alone rather than making it sound ten times worse, calling for the nurses jobs and sanctions for the hospital, then she would still be alive.

Bottom line is you can't prepare for what you can't foresee.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to see these DJ's really struggle with depression now the media has made them the enemy.

I will say obviously it was all a bit of fun to start with, but why is prank calling a hospital fun? Those people are there to save lives. If I was the DJ's I would have hung up soon as she said they would give them info.

Your logic is second to none. I didn't find it funny, so I think it should be illegal. Absolutely. *facepalm*

I didn't address it because I couldn't decipher what on earth you were talking about it. Now that you've written it better, I will answer your question. The royal family are just that- FAMILY. If they want to publicly broadcast information about their FAMILY member with her consent, then what could be wrong with that? Why would I, or anybody have a 'go at them' for that?

What information the hospital actually chose to give out isn't important-what's important is that the radio station were trying to get inside information in the first place. Luckily, the hospital didn't give out anything extra. Maybe, even, there was nothing extra too give out. Kate has morning sickness and that's that. That doesn't change the intentions of the DJ's. They were digging for more.

And you know it's "PR" how? Owh, yeah. Some magical unicorn told you ye