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Impossible to find intellectual, independent, book-worm type girls

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Original post by Crumpet1
Find a way of hanging out with lawyers - who ALL meet that description. If you're still at university, join the law society.


Eh? All the law students, law graduates and lawyers I know are pretty much the opposite of that.. :rolleyes:
Original post by Studentus-anonymous
If you were so smart you'd realise that dating sites are a waste of time.


Why do you think that?
Original post by Wyrd14
I meet plenty of attractive, intelligent, independent, book-worm type girls on a daily basis - the only problem is that they always seem to be taken.


No, we end up with some douchebag who doesn't appreciate us and only wants to mess around.
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Original post by Wyrd14
I meet plenty of attractive, intelligent, independent, book-worm type girls on a daily basis - the only problem is that they always seem to be taken.

Not when i ask them. :ahee::sexface:
Original post by arina162
You should come of your high horse and look beyond the surface... Not all the girls who like to go out are superficial. My perfect day does consist of visiting a museum (preferably ancient greek), then curling up with a good book and then getting ready for going out with my friends. Yes, to a club. And guess what? I am attractive, intelligent and still love to party. You can have it both ways, you know.
Just go out and get talking to some girls. They might be what you're looking for. :cool:


How modest of you...

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This is because there is a racial divide here;

Most black women will be (strong and) independent.
Most asian women will be intelligent.
Most book-worm type girls will be white.

You're simply going to have to choose your 2 most desirable qualities then find a mixed race woman of the appropriate combination.
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Original post by arina162
You should come of your high horse and look beyond the surface... Not all the girls who like to go out are superficial. My perfect day does consist of visiting a museum (preferably ancient greek), then curling up with a good book and then getting ready for going out with my friends. Yes, to a club. And guess what? I am attractive, intelligent and still love to party. You can have it both ways, you know.
Just go out and get talking to some girls. They might be what you're looking for. :cool:


You are just a rare and confusing breed. Most women don't fit into your category.

Original post by Rgman27
I don't know why you would go on PlentyofFish.com to find "intellectual, independent, book-worm type girls".

Shot yourself in foot before you started.


Give me a break. I was just trying it out.

Original post by py0alb
Join a book group, obviously.

I think its a bit silly how you assume that the set of girls who are intellectual and independent and the set of girls who enjoy going out to bars and clubs are mutually exclusive. In fact it couldn't be further from the truth.


I don't see how such an assumption could be so ludicrous, it is what I have determined empirically. Independent girls in particular don't feel the need to socialise with the rest of society's sheep so often. I am talking about women who have clubbing etc as their predominant past time.

Original post by Rascacielos


Agreed. There's no point settling for someone who won't make you happy.



He's looking for a woman who is intellectual and more interested in reading a book than in going out to a party and getting drunk every other night, is what I'm reading into the original post. They're not that rare you know.



Far from true. 90% of the people in my year are only 'bookworm types' when they have to be and otherwise are far more interested in going out than sitting down with [another] book.



He wasn't saying all girls were superficial - nor was he saying that the ones he meets in everyday life are. He was only saying that most girls he meets are "loud, party types" which is true. A fair majority of girls do fit that description.

The 'superficial, arrogant' etc comment referred to girls on dating sites. I wouldn't know whether that's true or not, but I imagine it's quite easy to tell from their profile.



Original post by Wyrd14
I meet plenty of attractive, intelligent, independent, book-worm type girls on a daily basis - the only problem is that they always seem to be taken.


Took the words right out of my mouth :smile:
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Original post by Wyrd14
I meet plenty of attractive, intelligent, independent, book-worm type girls on a daily basis - the only problem is that they always seem to be taken.


Sorry I misquoted you in my previous reply. Where are you meeting such women?
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Original post by Anonymous
You are just a rare and confusing breed. Most women don't fit into your category.

I don't see how such an assumption could be so ludicrous, it is what I have determined empirically. Independent girls in particular don't feel the need to socialise with the rest of society's sheep so often. I am talking about women who have clubbing etc as their predominant past time.



She's not rare, your conclusions are simply erroneous. There must have been a flaw in your experimental methodology.
Reply 49
Original post by concubine
It's not hard. They're everywhere. Looking for great people on dating sites? Woo. You don't approach people? Okay.

Approach people. Problem ****ing solved.


Why should I approach people? As I said previously the likelihood of the person I approach being my type is very small. It's an efficient, hassling and time wasting strategy.

Original post by Classical Liberal
I could swear my GF is one of those.


You sir, are one lucky man.
Couldn't possibly agree more.. such a breed of women are very difficult to find.
Original post by arina162
You should come of your high horse and look beyond the surface... Not all the girls who like to go out are superficial. My perfect day does consist of visiting a museum (preferably ancient greek), then curling up with a good book and then getting ready for going out with my friends. Yes, to a club. And guess what? I am attractive, intelligent and still love to party. You can have it both ways, you know.
Just go out and get talking to some girls. They might be what you're looking for. :cool:


What do you mean you like visiting an ancient Greek museum? Do you mean that you like museums of archaeology/antiquity, or that you are particularly fond of Greek archaeology? There are no "ancient Greek" museums (unless your perfect day also consists of flying to Greece to visit one of the provincial small museums that are, to my knowledge, the only museums that contain exclusively exhibits from ancient Greece)
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Original post by *Corinna*
What do you mean you like visiting an ancient Greek museum? Do you mean that you like museums of archaeology/antiquity, or that you are particularly fond of Greek archaeology? There are no "ancient Greek" museums (unless your perfect day also consists of flying to Greece to visit one of the provincial small museums that are, to my knowledge, the only museums that contain exclusively exhibits from ancient Greece)


Greek archaeology. Sorry, my German's been coming through. :colondollar:
This. :biggrin:
Logic would dictate that the girls with the same qualities you're after, are in the same position as yourself. You're spending time online on a forum(s), so..it's likely they are as well. Online dating might be an idea, but if a guy is too anxious to try it, a girl with his same qualities would likely feel the same. Thus it's more likely that by getting to know people on forums and forming friendships which may result in real-life meetings is a good idea. This often happens with gamers on MMO's. My best friend in the next room has made a new friend, who AFAIK is her boyfriend though she's not explicitly made it official to me, they met in some clan on her MMO and he's travelled up and stayed her for a week at a time on multiple occasions.
Original post by Anonymous
I am in no way bashing loud party-girl type women. I am sure they are attractive to most men but just not me. However, they seem to be the only type that I ever come across. Women on datings sites like POF.com are worse, the vast majority are conceited, one dimensional air heads whose set of interests consists of only shopping and "going out 'avin a good time".

I have high standards when it comes to finding a woman with a compatible and unique character and personality and I am finding the very job difficult. I don't usually approach women I don't know; the chances that I may meet someone I like is about 5%.

What is the solution? Perhaps a dating site purely for the subset of women I have described?

I live in the west midlands. I am a bookworm. Come find me.
Oh and btw, our library is strangely absolutely FULL of chavs, on the computers and in the 'study' area... don't go looking there!
Original post by Rascacielos
Why do you think that?


The massive imbalance between male and female members leading to women being overloaded with male contact and thus most initial contact by men going unheeded, this is not an issue in face to face meetings where it's usually one on one or a small group of people who are difficult to blank.

The unrealistic pickiness and standards and people trying to simplify relationships down to a profile page and set of statistics/answers, this is opposed to face to face contact in which people generally are more accepting and forgiving of others and weigh them as a whole (especially after first impressions) rather than check-list assess them.

Removing members from the more reliable face to face method which we evolved with, no way for the human dynamic of 'chemistry' to work thus removing the key ability to 'click' with someone.


Aside from convenience it really doesn't add much benefit. Humans are meant to engage face-to-face, it's how we evolved, and relationships (predominantly built around intimacy and physicality, etc) require this the most.

Think of why office pukes still go into the office instead of universally working from home. Or why couples actually want to see each other time to time.

So yeah, practical and biological/psychological/sociological.
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Original post by Anonymous
Sorry I misquoted you in my previous reply. Where are you meeting such women?


I'm a PhD student, teacher, and writer so I meet them through my work, on my course, at conferences, workshops, reading groups, etc. They always seem to be in very settled relationships, though. My friends have advised me to flirt anyway, in case they get 'fed up' with their boyfriends, but I find that hard - once I find out they're attached I automatically keep things platonic.
Original post by Studentus-anonymous
The massive imbalance between male and female members leading to women being overloaded with male contact and thus most initial contact by men going unheeded, this is not an issue in face to face meetings where it's usually one on one or a small group of people who are difficult to blank.

The unrealistic pickiness and standards and people trying to simplify relationships down to a profile page and set of statistics/answers, this is opposed to face to face contact in which people generally are more accepting and forgiving of others and weigh them as a whole (especially after first impressions) rather than check-list assess them.

Removing members from the more reliable face to face method which we evolved with, no way for the human dynamic of 'chemistry' to work thus removing the key ability to 'click' with someone.


Aside from convenience it really doesn't add much benefit. Humans are meant to engage face-to-face, it's how we evolved, and relationships (predominantly built around intimacy and physicality, etc) require this the most.

Think of why office pukes still go into the office instead of universally working from home. Or why couples actually want to see each other time to time.

So yeah, practical and biological/psychological/sociological.


Sure, we need face-to-face contact with people. But internet dating doesn't prevent that - it's not as though your whole relationship is online. Personally, I think it's a great way of meeting people, particularly if you're not the sort of person who finds it easy to get talking to someone face-to-face. Then eventually you do meet up with them and your relationship becomes just like any other - the fact that it started online becomes pretty insignificant.
"I am no longer surprised by your only knowing half a dozen accomplished women. I rather wonder at your knowing any"

Slight paraphrasing there, but oh well. You need to look in places where intellectual bookworm girls would go as opposed to dating sites. :lol:

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