TSR Muscle Building Society For Men V8

I really don't agree with this line of reasoning for reasons I won't go into in this post but will no doubt find myself typing out once someone asks me to elaborate.

Anyone else notice that they don't get 'morning wood' anymore once they've started cutting/cardio.
Most likely a result of lower testosterone levels but does anyone know how to fix this? lol

Also how accurate are calorie counters on cardio machines in the gym? I burn about 500 cals on the elliptical machine in about 30mins at level 16ish with occasional burst of HIIT in there. Or if I'm running its about 350 cals in 30 mins.

Should I ask?

It's just something I routinely see on Mark's board.

Are you squatting deep? Your hamstrings control your back angle so having stronger ones help.

I squat past parallel, I think weak abs might be a cause of it...

I disagree entirely, its not about hamstrings, after learning to truly squat ATG I realised its all about biomechanics of your squat form not conscious control of erectors - I don't pay attention to what my back does at all, yet no rounding ATG. Its about sitting back, hip hinging properly, cylindrical trunk mechanics, bracing, going to Max hip flexion and then getting Rom out of your ankles and knees whilst keeping torso inclination static. Troll toll is arguing that pelvic tilting and lower back rounding are not the same (70s big school of thought). I don't even squat anymore and have cut my mobilisation in half and could squat atg any gym session I wanted. I always struggled with squat form and weight transferring forwards because of long femurs - it's all bull**** tho and I realised I just needed different joint angles. Once you actually learn hamstring tension proprioception, you become much quicker out of the hole because quads do the early work and then leaves hamstrings and glutes to do the brunt (hip extension) but this is just what happens with my squat because of my anthropometrics - shorter femurs means you can have a more upright torso and in my opinion biases the quads more.



Bull****.

Break your post down for a retard? So my squat biomechanics are wrong?

Your squat is never going to look like an upright-torso chinese athlete olympic squat at the Arnold 2008 (we've all seen that video), because you have long femurs, we're the same height. Your high bar squat is more likely to resemble a low-bar squat in terms of torso inclination.

To initiate your squat, I would recommend leaning back onto your heels until you feel your toes come up, as if you're going to fall backwards if you lean back anymore, THEN you hip hinge. Once you max out hip flexion, let your knees close completely and let your ankles dorsiflex and you'll get a nice quad and calf stretch reflex to rocket you out of the hole - then you will find that all you have to do is extend at the hip to basically finish the movement - which will be done mostly by hamstrings and glutes and lower back. You literally need to fall backwards to start your squat. The whole "break at the knee at the same time as the hip" or "break at the knee first" and "keep your torso upright" are lovely cues for 5'6 ****ing manlets like Candito (as lovely as his high-bar form was), but it's never going to work for us 6'1 manmores, Areeb baby.

I found that "falling backwards" to initiate my squat really helped me keep my weight on my heels and stop my knees going too far forward - I thought I would always be cursed to a huge knee drift, but I looked at my squat form and my torso was too upright for my anthropometrics. (see video)



This is how I used to squat, and it's probably similar to how you squat, and it is how neither of us should be squatting. I will try to get a video of my new squat form next leg day for you. Pause it when I'm in the hole, then analyse my torso angle (way too upright) and how far forward my knees are over my toes - no one has that much ankle ROM without intense mobbing and great genetics, it's really no surprise I blew out my tib post tendon. If you look at this video, I'm also inverting my ankles because no more rom.

**** it, I'm gonna film my new squat form and old squat form and critique them with voice over and compare the two for you. "How to high-bar squat for people with long femurs".

I don't even squat anymore and have cut my mobilisation in half and could squat atg any gym session I wanted.

shorter femurs means you can have a more upright torso and in my opinion biases the quads more.

Shorter femurs implies your squat is going to be more of an up-and-down type movement, whereas if your longer femurs implies your squat is going to be more of a concertina accordion type movement, if that makes any sense?

Sounds like kelly starrett woowoo



Your brain sends pain signals and restricts movement when it thinks your body is in danger. Also explains why things seem to hurt more when you haven't slept much and/or are stressed. Like what nun and smed earlier in this thread, the only squat mobilisation required imo are a few sets with 60kg until everything feels smooth and comfortable.



I don't buy into all of this femur length stuff. At what length does one not have short femurs? Does someone who is just past the critical point doomed to have **** squat form forever?

The Chinese lifters are able to stay upright not because they have short femurs (it might help, I don't know) but because like any other oly lifter, they have squatted that way all the time. They need to stay upright for their sport so it only makes sense to squat in a similar manner.

People good morning the weight because they let it happen. It's an easy way out for the body to allow back take the brunt off the weight. Everytime you keep reverting to this method, it just becomes second nature. Old habits die hard, so when using heavy weight, they have to default to that method.

For example, Tom martin used to squat in the powerlifting-good morning fashion.



Then he dropped the weight, worked on his technique with added conscious effort to stay upright and never allowing his form to break. He kept at it over and over until this became second nature and has pretty decent form now.



Unsurprisingly, his gym buddy who he coaches also has pretty decent form (after lowering the weight and working at it with a conscious effort).



I didn't really explain that eloquently. Good book I highly recommend is "The Brain That Changes Itself: Stories of Personal Triumph from the Frontiers of Brain Science" which kind of touches on what I was talking about.

why not just low bar squat?

why not just low bar squat?

Sounds like kelly starrett woowoo



Your brain sends pain signals and restricts movement when it thinks your body is in danger. Also explains why things seem to hurt more when you haven't slept much and/or are stressed. Like what nun and smed earlier in this thread, the only squat mobilisation required imo are a few sets with 60kg until everything feels smooth and comfortable.



I don't buy into all of this femur length stuff. At what length does one not have short femurs? Does someone who is just past the critical point doomed to have **** squat form forever?

The Chinese lifters are able to stay upright not because they have short femurs (it might help, I don't know) but because like any other oly lifter, they have squatted that way all the time. They need to stay upright for their sport so it only makes sense to squat in a similar manner.

People good morning the weight because they let it happen. It's an easy way out for the body to allow back take the brunt off the weight. Everytime you keep reverting to this method, it just becomes second nature. Old habits die hard, so when using heavy weight, they have to default to that method.

For example, Tom martin used to squat in the powerlifting-good morning fashion.



Then he dropped the weight, worked on his technique with added conscious effort to stay upright and never allowing his form to break. He kept at it over and over until this became second nature and has pretty decent form now.



Unsurprisingly, his gym buddy who he coaches also has pretty decent form (after lowering the weight and working at it with a conscious effort).



I didn't really explain that eloquently. Good book I highly recommend is "The Brain That Changes Itself: Stories of Personal Triumph from the Frontiers of Brain Science" which kind of touches on what I was talking about.

I would squat however you want to squat and whichever allows you to achieve whatever goals you have.

There's nothing wrong with the good-morning/forward leaning squat if that works for you. Some great lifters squat like that it works great for their purposes. Others can stay ridiculously upright and that also works for them.

Right now I'm playing around with staying more upright. I think elbows forward is a good cue for that. If you have them rather back there's a really good chance you will lean forward a whole deal. I think it was a Mark Bell video I watched and he said the angle of your torso will follow the angle of your elbows.

I disagree entirely, its not about hamstrings, after learning to truly squat ATG I realised its all about biomechanics of your squat form not conscious control of erectors - I don't pay attention to what my back does at all, yet no rounding ATG. Its about sitting back, hip hinging properly, cylindrical trunk mechanics, bracing, going to Max hip flexion and then getting Rom out of your ankles and knees whilst keeping torso inclination static.

Troll toll is arguing that pelvic tilting and lower back rounding are not the same (70s big school of thought).

low bar just exacerbates the 'good morning' problem for me.

There's nothing wrong with the good-morning/forward leaning squat if that works for you. Some great lifters squat like that it works great for their purposes. Others can stay ridiculously upright and that also works for them.