Ukraine's associated membership in EU

They can and already are coming here with ease, the EU won't make it that much easier than it already is for them. You're just in the wrong area.

WTF you clearly lack any interaction with Ukrainians as you'd know this isn't true, likewise for your comments about Russians.

Obviously you've never had a deal with Ukrainian businessmen. When I was working there, I came across some really unpleasant things. For instance, if you don't control directly the business situation, Ukrainian part will try to deceive you with a probability of 80%. For me it was enough when using loopholes in the law Ukrainian "partner" deceived me and defrauded €50,000. It was a bargain about the instrumentation of several Ukrainian fuel stations.

So, I'm not sure you know well Ukrainian mentality. However, I'm deeply convinced that Gribauskaite is right. Ukraine is a country without law. There's no place for such a country in the EU.

Actually I've done so many times, likewise with Russian businessmen too. If you get defrauded when doing dodgy deals in Ukraine, that's your own fault.

I do and I relish it as it fits closely to my own, I'm rather similar to them in the way business and life is conducted and I'd agree that Ukraine is lawless to an extent, those with money and power control the law... much like in Russia.

It's a good thing that you recognize Ukraine to be a lawless country. That's the reason which forbids the association of Ukraine with the EU. Finally, as far as I know the EU is interested in Ukraine just as a marketing area. As long as everything is controlled in Ukraine by the rich and influent gangsters the business dealing is pretty risky.

No it's not, EU companies will now have leverage, so if their rights are not respected they can complain to the EU bodies handling trade etc.


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No it's not, EU companies will now have leverage, so if their rights are not respected they can complain to the EU bodies handling trade etc. Posted from TSR Mobile

Well, I believe Ukrainian LGBT consists of ordinary opportunists. They've had quite a lot of time since USSR's collapse to defend their views, however they've not even tried once. But now they want us to bring everything to then on a silver platter. Are they kidding us? They have got to resolve all their problems on their own without involving us. If we help them today tomorrow they'll forget everything. That's how it happens. By the way, linking the matter with the associated agreement is, I think, absolute stupidity. Why the hell do they think their rights should play any role in it?

Well, I knew what I was talking about. They failed... They didn't have the guts to take to the streets even for a peaceful walk let alone protest. And do you still think we have to help them?
In what way? Writing slogans on twitter and facebook? Or maybe we have to go there ourselves to make numbers? F*ck it all folks. Let them solve their problems on their own without us interfering. And while they're doing this, there's no place for them in EU. We should sign no agreement with that barbarian country.