Are Durham and Warwick really that prestigious worldwide?

Obviously you're not from Imperial, what you said doesn't even make sense!

Imperial demands high entry grades because of several reasons, not least because of grade inflation in the UK, viz GCSE and A-Levels but also due to demand and supply.

If a run-of-the-mill uni asks for A*A*A*, do you think they would get many applicants?

You must be from Imperial lol. Imperial is good but its ranking is inflated because of its focus on courses that require higher entrance averages in general.

Edit: in answer to the question - neither Durham nor Warwick is "prestigious worldwide", though the Warwick Business School has some cachet in East Asia.

Obviously you're not from Imperial, what you said doesn't even make sense!

Imperial demands high entry grades because of several reasons, not least because of grade inflation in the UK, viz GCSE and A-Levels but also due to demand and supply.

If a run-of-the-mill uni asks for A*A*A*, do you think they would get many applicants?

So which subjects do these include that make them known worldwide?

Cambridge actually I just find the scientific research at Imperial to be very advanced. Although I wholly agree that the have ridiculous entrance requirements :P

You must be from Imperial lol. Imperial is good but its ranking is inflated because of its focus on courses that require higher entrance averages in general.

Wait until you see Trinity College Dublin's entry standard... A*A*A*A* for psychology and a few other courses.


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What I was saying is that Imperial teaches Science, Tech and Medicine courses which tend to require higher grades and draw in students with high grades than Arts courses. So it is biased in its UCAS tariff.

Thanks cambio wechsel, that was exactly my point and I was referring mainly to the UK domestic rankings.

Ahh entrance requirements don't mean anything past a certain point :P

Is it affiliated with Trinity Cambridge?

Likewise Oxbridge have the highest proportion of public school educated, so if that factor were eliminated, they'd be lower in league tables.

I have an offer for AAA, which is below what many offer for medicine! I have a friend that has an offer for A*A*AA at LSE to study Law, and even he doesn't think his requirements are inflated.

Because international tables are based on very different criteria to domestic tables. International tables will consider things such as citations, peer reviews, Academic awards and even number of international students and staff - all of which favour the larger research intensive universities in larger cities.

As for employment, if you look at the employer review in league tables you'll find both perform quite strongly internationally anyway (around top 25 in the world). This is largely because they are strong universities, so it's no surprise their graduates do well, but also because so many major multi-nationals are Anglo-American anyway.

If you look at the great universities in the World, such as Harvard, UCL, Oxford and Yale, they have great research power, as well as high standards of teaching and tradition. Durham just hasn't got the resources and infrastructure to compete with the World's best universities, and it is about time students on TSR woke up and realised that it isn't a World class university yet.

The thread is old mate, why resurrect it?

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Because international tables are based on very different criteria to domestic tables. International tables will consider things such as citations, peer reviews, Academic awards and even number of international students and staff - all of which favour the larger research intensive universities in larger cities.

Warwick really suffers in citations, because it hasn't had hundreds of years to build up a wealth of literature.

This is a bit like Stanford in the USA. It is not "Ivy League" but alongside MIT is arguably the best university on the planet.

Edit: in answer to the question - neither Durham nor Warwick is "prestigious worldwide", though the Warwick Business School has some cachet in East Asia.

According to wikipedia view count index (which I originally posted in a different thread), Warwick is reasonably known in Chinese speaking area and Korea, and Durham is reasonably known in Chinese speaking area. They are known on the same level as Northwestern, and more famous than Rice and Emory among non-English speaking countries.