Sanctions against Russia

What's your opinion? Should they get sanctioned or not?

They already are being sanctioned. Further sanctions may be inevitable, as could potential military action unless the
situation is defused. Those in Ukraine having taken European observers isn't helpful to the cause either.

No-one can say for certain what will happen, hopefully not war.

They have Europe over a barrel (literally) regarding oil.

If they do invade the Ukraine, then frankly I think we should take the economic hit and go for a full oil embargo, along with everything else. Some things are more important than money. But narrow self-interest will presumably prevail over democratic ideals.

Still, the case for developing energy independence has never been stronger. That will probably be the real take-home message Europe takes out of this. We won't have leverage over Russia until we can do without them.

Gas, not oil.

They have Europe over a barrel (literally) regarding oil.

If they do invade the Ukraine, then frankly I think we should take the economic hit and go for a full oil embargo, along with everything else. Some things are more important than money. But narrow self-interest will presumably prevail over democratic ideals.

Still, the case for developing energy independence has never been stronger. That will probably be the real take-home message Europe takes out of this. We won't have leverage over Russia until we can do without them.

Pedantic much?

What's your opinion? Should they get sanctioned or not?

Problem: Too much reliance on Russian Gas.
Solution: Increase reliance on a non existant US capacity to supply EU.

Solid EU logic.

Yes, they should.....but so should Israel. Deep down, the real reason for the sanctions is the US hates Russia. However, you won't see Israel getting sanctioned when they are doing far worse then Russia and for far longer.

Eastern Ukraine clearly wants separation from the rest of Ukraine but Russia needs to let them do that by themselves.

Put it this way, who has invaded multiple countries in the past decade?

Who has encircled and continues to do so under expansion plans?

Who de-railed a legitimate Ukraine government in the hopes of getting more military bases and installing a Black Sea naval base?

Who planned to bomb a country fighting Jihad militants on a false premise of chemical weapons?

Who constantly demands from a country that literally owns them whilst backing two xenophobic countries? (Japan & Israel?)



I can tell you now, its not Russia.


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Put it this way, who has invaded multiple countries in the past decade?

Who has encircled and continues to do so under expansion plans?

Who de-railed a legitimate Ukraine government in the hopes of getting more military bases and installing a Black Sea naval base?

Who planned to bomb a country fighting Jihad militants on a false premise of chemical weapons?

Who constantly demands from a country that literally owns them whilst backing two xenophobic countries? (Japan & Israel?)



I can tell you now, its not Russia.


Just ebcause Hollywood portrays NATO as the hero does not mean we are heroic. This situation is a perfect example as to why politicians should be the first to die in any potential conflict/war. They would think twice about stirring the pot with their own lies, bull**** and table banging.

My costs are going to go up because we have now the real issue of absorbing Ukraine into the EU. A useless state by any means, with their only plus being their women.

Their military is useless, they dont sell anything worthwhile and to top it off they have a **** load of debt to offer us when the likes of the IMF get them hooked onc redit.

Russia has played their hand perfectly, I tip my hat to them.