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FP1 Matrix transformation

It's just a minor question but it keeps bugging me.

The question is from FP1 June 2009 (edexcel):

5. R = (a2ab) \begin{pmatrix} a & 2 \\ a & b \end{pmatrix} , where a and b are constants and a > 0.
(a) Find R^2 in terms of a and b.

Given that R^2 represents an enlargement with centre (0, 0) and scale factor 15,
(b) find the value of a and the value of b.

So I solved it and got a = 3 (as per mark scheme) and b = 3 or b = -3. The mark scheme only provides b = -3 as the right answer.

Here is the answer to (a): R2=(a2+2a2a+2ba2+ab2a+b2) R^2 = \begin{pmatrix} a^2 + 2a & 2a + 2b \\ a^2 + ab & 2a + b^2 \end{pmatrix} .

So obviously you equate the leading diagonal entries to 15 and solve for a and b. Since b is squared, I don't understand why it can't be either. Does it have to satisfy something in R? Is there anything else I've missed? Thanks in advance.
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Original post by JerzyDudek
It's just a minor question but it keeps bugging me.

The question is from FP1 June 2009 (edexcel):

5. R = (a2ab) \begin{pmatrix} a & 2 \\ a & b \end{pmatrix} , where a and b are constants and a > 0.
(a) Find R^2 in terms of a and b.

Given that R^2 represents an enlargement with centre (0, 0) and scale factor 15,
(b) find the value of a and the value of b.

So I solved it and got a = 3 (as per mark scheme) and b = 3 or b = -3. The mark scheme only provides b = -3 as the right answer.

Here is the answer to (a): R2=(a2+2a2a+2ba2+ab2a+b2) R^2 = \begin{pmatrix} a^2 + 2a & 2a + 2b \\ a^2 + ab & 2a + b^2 \end{pmatrix} .

So obviously you equate the leading diagonal entries to 15 and solve for a and b. Since b is squared, I don't understand why it can't be either. Does it have to satisfy something in R? Is there anything else I've missed? Thanks in advance.


I'm quite rusty on this, but I think that if b = +3 then the off-diagonal elements are non-zero which means that your matrix isn't just a pure enlargement it is probably doing some sort of deformation like a shear to the target object as well!
Original post by JerzyDudek
It's just a minor question but it keeps bugging me.

The question is from FP1 June 2009 (edexcel):

5. R = (a2ab) \begin{pmatrix} a & 2 \\ a & b \end{pmatrix} , where a and b are constants and a > 0.
(a) Find R^2 in terms of a and b.

Given that R^2 represents an enlargement with centre (0, 0) and scale factor 15,
(b) find the value of a and the value of b.

So I solved it and got a = 3 (as per mark scheme) and b = 3 or b = -3. The mark scheme only provides b = -3 as the right answer.

Here is the answer to (a): R2=(a2+2a2a+2ba2+ab2a+b2) R^2 = \begin{pmatrix} a^2 + 2a & 2a + 2b \\ a^2 + ab & 2a + b^2 \end{pmatrix} .

So obviously you equate the leading diagonal entries to 15 and solve for a and b. Since b is squared, I don't understand why it can't be either. Does it have to satisfy something in R? Is there anything else I've missed? Thanks in advance.


Remember that a matrix that represents an enlargement with scale factor 15 will be:

R2=(150015) R^2 = \begin{pmatrix} 15 & 0 \\ 0 & 15 \end{pmatrix}

Thus, your 2a+2b2a + 2b // a2+aba^2 + ab should also equal zero, and that isn't satisfied by b=3b = 3 if a=3a = 3.
(edited 9 years ago)
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Original post by davros
I'm quite rusty on this, but I think that if b = +3 then the off-diagonal elements are non-zero which means that your matrix isn't just a pure enlargement it is probably doing some sort of deformation like a shear to the target object as well!

Original post by CTArsenal
Remember that a matrix that represents an enlargement with scale factor 15 will be:

R2=(150015) R^2 = \begin{pmatrix} 15 & 0 \\ 0 & 15 \end{pmatrix}

Thus, your 2a+2b2a + 2b // a2+aba^2 + ab should also equal zero, and that isn't satisfied by b=3b = 3 if a=3a = 3.


Oh obviously, that's so stupid of me. Thanks for help, gonna delete the thread in a couple of minutes.
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Original post by JerzyDudek
Oh obviously, that's so stupid of me. Thanks for help, gonna delete the thread in a couple of minutes.


Oh, you can't really delete. Well let it be.

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