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G481- mechanics 19th May OCR physics A

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Original post by Aph
Last years was the hardest I've seen, this years will be harder.


It will be harder? But wasnt it that not as many people did well last year because it was too difficult?

I thought the trend was that if one year the paper is difficult the next years is slightly easier?
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Original post by randlemcmurphy
Wouldn't that suggest we will have a hard question on another topic, as people may be anticipating a similar one.

Double bluff:wink: honestly though othe then trilateration which came up last year I don't think anything else can reach that level of difficulty.
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Original post by rainbow16
Do you guys think that the paper will be easier than last year's? I feel last years paper was more difficult than previous years ones, as there there we more confusing questions that could have easily lost marks. Normally G481 papers are relatively easy but that was just odd.


That's it. When students do well on a certain topic or type of question they replace them with something we'd be less familiar with. It has happened in maths too; those doing edexcel Mechanics 1 in AL maths may have noticed that conservation of momentum questions have been discontinued since 2013. This might be standard practice throughout all boards and subjects.

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Original post by rainbow16
It will be harder? But wasnt it that not as many people did well last year because it was too difficult?

I thought the trend was that if one year the paper is difficult the next years is slightly easier?
if OCR maths papers are anything to go by its harder this year. I think it's better to expect the worse and prepare for the hardest paper of your life really.
Original post by MO2898
That's it. When students do well on a certain topic or type of question they replace them with something we'd be less familiar with. It has happened in maths too; those doing edexcel Mechanics 1 in AL maths may have noticed that conservation of momentum questions have been discontinued since 2013. This might be standard practice throughout all boards and subjects.

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Thats true, so for that reason it must mean that they are going to do some other silly maths question, and i don't know why, but I feel it will have more writing to do. like even last year they didnt have many definitions, so hopefully they will test us on them.
Who knows, maybe science exams will go light this year.
Does anybody have the link for the JUNE 2014 G481 paper please? The official mark scheme? It is nowhere to be found wherever I have looked.
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Original post by rainbow16
Thats true, so for that reason it must mean that they are going to do some other silly maths question, and i don't know why, but I feel it will have more writing to do. like even last year they didnt have many definitions, so hopefully they will test us on them.
Who knows, maybe science exams will go light this year.


Maybe they will, but I wouldn't wish for something too light where small mistakes have much more of an impact on your grade. That can be annoying.

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How do you do inclined plane questions? I am wondering if anyone has any methods to answer them or any resources that help

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Original post by LucentDoughnut98
How do you do inclined plane questions? I am wondering if anyone has any methods to answer them or any resources that help

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mgSin(theta) for finding the component of the weight parallel to the plane. mgcos(theta) for perpendicular to plane, or the normal.
Original post by corpeal
mgSin(theta) for finding the component of the weight parallel to the plane. mgcos(theta) for perpendicular to plane, or the normal.


Hi, could you help me with a question? I don't know why I can't do it, maybe I am thinking too much into it.

(http://www.st-ambrosecollege.org.uk/library/client/documents/Science/AS%20Physics_/G481%201.3.2%20%20Kinetic%20and%20Potential%20Energy.pdf)

It is question 3 on page 5 of the document.

To calculate the speed at B I did v=(2*g*30)0.5

I am confused as to how to do the second part, I calculated the speed at O as v=(2*g*50)0.5. I don't know what to do now!

Thanks for any help :smile:
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Original post by randlemcmurphy
Hi, could you help me with a question? I don't know why I can't do it, maybe I am thinking too much into it.

(http://www.st-ambrosecollege.org.uk/library/client/documents/Science/AS%20Physics_/G481%201.3.2%20%20Kinetic%20and%20Potential%20Energy.pdf)

It is question 3 on page 5 of the document.

To calculate the speed at B I did v=(2*g*30)0.5

I am confused as to how to do the second part, I calculated the speed at O as v=(2*g*50)0.5. I don't know what to do now!

Thanks for any help :smile:


Heyho. I have no idea if it is correct, but I thought that you were supposed to use suvat to find the horizontal displacement. Do you know what the answer is?

If you haven't found the solution yet I have added what I thought was supposed to have been done.

Spoiler

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Original post by corpeal
Heyho. I have no idea if it is correct, but I thought that you were supposed to use suvat to find the horizontal displacement. Do you know what the answer is?

If you haven't found the solution yet I have added what I thought was supposed to have be done.

Spoiler



Unfortunately not...
Original post by corpeal
Heyho. I have no idea if it is correct, but I thought that you were supposed to use suvat to find the horizontal displacement. Do you know what the answer is?

If you haven't found the solution yet I have added what I thought was supposed to have been done.

Spoiler



Wouldn't that be the vertical distance travelled, which makes sense because the track is frictionless so in theory transfer of energy should be 100% efficient. The only thing I can think to do is to use trigonometric ratios to work out s. tan(30)=50/s.
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Original post by randlemcmurphy
Wouldn't that be the vertical distance travelled, which makes sense because the track is frictionless so in theory transfer of energy should be 100% efficient. The only thing I can think to do is to use trigonometric ratios to work out s. tan(30)=50/s.


That does seem like a plausible method, but isn't that assuming the angle of first slope is equal to the other?
i got a distance of 87.2m anyone have the mark scheme? speed at o 31.32ms-1
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Original post by jonnypdot
i got a distance of 87.2m anyone have the mark scheme? speed at o 31.32ms-1


Could you explain how you got that answer? I was unsure of how to proceed with this question too.
Original post by corpeal
Could you explain how you got that answer? I was unsure of how to proceed with this question too.


sure but i must say i am known for my wacky ideas, so at A skier has max GPE, at B some gpe has been converted into Ke, i used the equation mgh=0.5xmxv^2 to work out the speed.
for part 2 i thought at O all the gpe must be now ke so i found the gpe at A and made that the ke rearranged the equation to get the initial resultant velocity.
the i have a standard projectile motion scenario. with 31ms-1 as the resultant velocity, worked out then the total air time via suvat then used d=sxt to work out the distance
Original post by jonnypdot
sure but i must say i am known for my wacky ideas, so at A skier has max GPE, at B some gpe has been converted into Ke, i used the equation mgh=0.5xmxv^2 to work out the speed.
for part 2 i thought at O all the gpe must be now ke so i found the gpe at A and made that the ke rearranged the equation to get the initial resultant velocity.
the i have a standard projectile motion scenario. with 31ms-1 as the resultant velocity, worked out then the total air time via suvat then used d=sxt to work out the distance


When you worked out the time, did you do the time for a "full parabola" or half a parabola. I would use suvat with u=31ms-1 and v=0 as this would be the maximum distance travelled before the skier would come back down the slope again.
Original post by randlemcmurphy
When you worked out the time, did you do the time for a "full parabola" or half a parabola. I would use suvat with u=31ms-1 and v=0 as this would be the maximum distance travelled before the skier would come back down the slope again.


yeah i multiplied the time by 2 i first work out half the parabola, anyone have the correct answer
Original post by jonnypdot
yeah i multiplied the time by 2 i first work out half the parabola, anyone have the correct answer


Can you show your working out, because I did it and didn't end up with 87.2m.

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