Future of the MUN

A MEU might be worth it... its either that or death

I don't think MUN can recover, plainly nobody is interested in it no matter what anyone does. The Model European Union and Model House of Lords are both interesting ideas. Would the MHoC support the creation of a MHoL?

I think a MEU would be the most interesting idea. It would have more interaction with the MHoC, allow reform to be proposed and could hold elections based on European party lines to generate interest

Running elections is a good idea. But might it combined with thr mhoc elections fatigue too much?

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Hmm... We could stagger the terms so the elections here happen at the mid-point of a MHoC term?

Running elections is a good idea. But might it combined with thr mhoc elections fatigue too much?

I think a MEU would be the most interesting idea. It would have more interaction with the MHoC, allow reform to be proposed and could hold elections based on European party lines to generate interest

Please excuse me for weighing in here but I think it would be great to keep some form of the MUN whether it transforms into MEU or MHoL! I can give it big shout outs around the site and promote the revival to raise awareness if that would help gather more members?

Please excuse me for weighing in here but I think it would be great to keep some form of the MUN whether it transforms into MEU or MHoL! I can give it big shout outs around the site and promote the revival to raise awareness if that would help gather more members?

Thanks, that would be fantastic and hopefully an MEU or MHoL would be a bit more attractive as it affects our lives more. Some people report not being allowed to post without being part of a group, but not being able to see a group to join. Could you look into that too please?

Too many elections could be a bad thing, however, the elections could run parallel to the GE elections in the MHoC. It is unfeasible to represent all 78 UK MEPs but scaling it down to 19 would be easy. Until the next MHoC GE the MEP representation could mirror RL representation as to the parties the MEPs are form as it is too late to include an option in the upcoming GE and election fatigue would not be good, or it could be half way through as G_P suggested. The remaining countries would have to take whoever wants to represent them and scale their votes up to the same proportion of MEPs that country should have. I contacted Birchington as now would be the time to experiment before the forum is gotten rid of.

I think we'd have to put it up to discussion as it's impossible for us to replicate the real-life electoral format anyway, since the British seats are allocated via regional lists. We'd also have the issue of whether to use the UK Party names, or the European ones - if we go with UK I feel we risk it being too similar to MHoC elections and means the European People's Party would be unrepresented.

As an experiment, we could try running it as a pan-European election - parties would stand as their European Groupings, so we'd have the European People's Party, the Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats, the European Conservatives and Reformists, the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe, the European United Left-Nordic Green Left, the Greens-European Free Alliance, and the Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy. They'd be expected to write manifestos and develop policy for the whole of Europe rather than just the UK (or, particularly in the case of the ECR and EFDD, to weaken the EU's powers and influence) and campaign as such. We could then have an election with maybe ~25 seats allocated proportionally (which would make it highly likely each group would win at least one without over-estimating interest), or if we need to wait set up initially based on the proportions in real life. Right now that'd mean:

EPP: 8
S&D: 7
ECR: 3
ALDE: 3
GUE-NGL: 2
EFDD: 2

Which might also draw more activity in particular to the EPP as opposed to the ECR and give us more realistic election results once we do hold them.

In terms of subforums I guess this'd mean we need 6 party ones similar to the MHoC. I know there are three which could easily be re-purposed: the Libertarian Party forum; the old Opposition forum which has been redundant since the MHoC abolished opposition coalitions but still exists, empty, with the Liberals and Tories holding access; and the Security Council forum here. I guess we'd have to ask the admins for another 3 though: I don't know if that's realistic?

This is an excellent idea and much better to the one I was thinking of. There's a sub-forum here with the archived MUN content in which could be used if needs be bringing the requirement down to three. For the sake of more members as there will inevitable be people who are not an MP or are an MP wanting to crossover, 35-40 would be a nicer number to have.