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Original post by Diadema
Hello!!

I got an offer for MPhil in General Linguistics and Comparative Philology ! :wink:

*happy*


that sounds really interesting!! May I ask what languages are included in the comparative philology?
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Reply 581
Original post by cinosia
i think the deadline situation is actually OK - this Friday, January 20, is the main funding deadline. This post is maybe a little harsh, obviously it is very competitive but policywonk's profile looks good, with awesome language skills and relevant work experience :smile: good luck!


It was not my intention to come off as harsh, but since he asked for an assessment of his chances, I gave him my opinion. His profile is nothing exceptional by Oxford standards so while I think he stands a chance at admission, him being awarded funding for a taught masters seems highly unlikely to me. Most of what makes you think his profile looks good is actually given very little consideration by admission committees (GRE, languages, work experience). My take is that he can get an offer (but no funding) if he can obtain some very strong letters of recommendation.
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Reply 582
Original post by Xristina
that sounds really interesting!! May I ask what languages are included in the comparative philology?


Thank you. :smile:

you may specialise in:

a) Comparative Philology of the Indo-European languages
(the languages should normally be ancient Indo-European languages (e.g. Ancient Greek, Sanskrit, Latin))

or

b) History and Structure of One or Two Selected Languages
(the languages may be ancient (Ancient Greek, Sanskrit, Akkadian,Latin) or Modern (e.g. German, Italian, Turkish etc.)

:smile:
(edited 12 years ago)
Original post by Diadema
Thank you. :smile:

you may specialise in:

a) Comparative Philology of the Indo-European languages
(the languages should normally be ancient Indo-European languages (e.g. Ancient Greek, Sanskrit, Akkadian, Latin))

or

b) History and Structure of One or Two Selected Languages
(the languages may be ancient or Modern (e.g. German, Italian, Turkish etc.)

:smile:


which one are you specialising in? :tongue: The reason I'm asking is because I am a Classicist, and I had some comparative philology modules as an undergraduate (and loved them :love: )
Of course, in the world of Classics (best world ever :tongue:) when we say Comparative Philology we only mean the first, so I was just interested to know if you also mean that :smile:
Original post by Ghost6
It was not my intention to come off as harsh, but since he asked for an assessment of his chances, I gave him my opinion. His profile is nothing exceptional by Oxford standards so while I think he stands a chance at admission, him being awarded funding for a taught masters seems highly unlikely to me. Most of what makes you think his profile looks good is actually given very little consideration by admission committees (GRE, languages, work experience). My take is that he can get an offer (but no funding) if he can obtain some very strong letters of recommendation.


problem is you don't actually know how good his personal statement, or his essays are. For example, me and a friend of mine both got offers, both coming from the same university (the reason this is important is because we were both marked by the same people, with the same scale etc...) I finished with a 9 out of 10, which is good (first is 8,5> but it is generally easier to get 8,5 than it is in the UK to get the 70, so I'd say our 9 is the UK 70) but not unheard of. He finished with a 9,7 which I only know two other people who got the same mark. One is my professor, he did his PhD in Cambridge 20 years ago, with a full scholarship etc, another is a friend of mine doing her Masters here in Oxford with me.
The thing is, that out of me and my friend I got the AHRC, whereas he did not. This means that grades do not mean everything, and whereas the GRE won't really matter, he might be amazing in what he is doing, and if he is it will show somehow.
Original post by Expatriate1
I felt a bit better about it all when I remembered that when I went down for the humanities open day in November, I found out that 1) the vast majority of applications come in for the Jan deadline and 2) they only offer around 5-10 places for the Modern Euro history Mphil each year. So the flat I haven't been rejected means that they feel I'm good enough, but they need to check against the majority of applicants for that program before making a decision.

Or something like that.

As to how I got them to read out my decision - I just called the department up (You can find the contact number here http://www.history.ox.ac.uk/prosgrad/pg_history_contacts.html - its the first one listed). The lady that answered told me that they would be sending everything out soon, but she could just read out my decision to me. I think my heart stopped the entire time she was umming and ahing over where I was in the database - followed by a massive anti-climax. Still, its a lot lot better than a no.

Just have to wait for Cambridge now.... Still a week till the next degree committee meeting though. Hurry up and wait etc.


going to phone them, right now!!!
Reply 586
Original post by Xristina
which one are you specialising in? :tongue: The reason I'm asking is because I am a Classicist, and I had some comparative philology modules as an undergraduate (and loved them :love: )
Of course, in the world of Classics (best world ever :tongue:) when we say Comparative Philology we only mean the first, so I was just interested to know if you also mean that :smile:


That is amazing !! :love:

Well, I was a double major before (specifically, English and Czech). I had Latin in highschool, Old Church Slavonic and Old English as electives during my studies. I can speak a little bit of Modern Greek, but haven't had the opportunity to study Ancient Greek :s-smilie:. Honestly, I'm still trying to decide which specialism to pick! I'm leaning towards C, however! :wink:

Yeah, in the best world ever *laughs*, that IS the prevailing opinion, I'm aware :biggrin:
Reply 587
Original post by Ghost6
An offer, perhaps, and it only costs £50 to apply so you should do it anyways, but I would forget about funding. Funding is extremely competitive and most deadlines are probably over by now. Work experience is generally not considered when applying to 'academic' master's. Also, UK universities do not use the GRE generally.


Yes but for this one they specifically ask you to state work experience, volunteer work etc. It's aimed at people who want to become practitioners, not academics.

I think the profile looks good, and I think the course sounds very interesting, but being a new one it may be hard to judge properly re applicant intake.

Edited to add: I think an important part of the application will be the essay they require.

Incidentally iirc there are some funding options that are specifically aimed at this course only as well so they may not be as competitive as the more general funding opportunities.
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Reply 588
Original post by Emu87
I emailed the department today asking when we can expect to hear back from them. I got a pretty prompt reply stating that there had been some delays and that we can expect to hear the outcomes of our applications on Wednesday. Hope that helps!


Thank you!
Reply 589
Original post by Xristina
problem is you don't actually know how good his personal statement, or his essays are. For example, me and a friend of mine both got offers, both coming from the same university (the reason this is important is because we were both marked by the same people, with the same scale etc...) I finished with a 9 out of 10, which is good (first is 8,5> but it is generally easier to get 8,5 than it is in the UK to get the 70, so I'd say our 9 is the UK 70) but not unheard of. He finished with a 9,7 which I only know two other people who got the same mark. One is my professor, he did his PhD in Cambridge 20 years ago, with a full scholarship etc, another is a friend of mine doing her Masters here in Oxford with me.
The thing is, that out of me and my friend I got the AHRC, whereas he did not. This means that grades do not mean everything, and whereas the GRE won't really matter, he might be amazing in what he is doing, and if he is it will show somehow.


Well certainly, all I can give him is my uninformed opinion. If he seeks 'official' advice then he will have to contact the admissions office at his prospective department.
Reply 590
Original post by Ghost6
Well certainly, all I can give him is my uninformed opinion. If he seeks 'official' advice then he will have to contact the admissions office at his prospective department.


Actually I think your advice would have been reasonable for a 'normal' masters....but this is a specific type that is quite different to most of them in terms of what they look for in applicants, funding options etc.

They are only taking in 30 people this year and plan to build it up to 120 at some stage. So applications may be more competitive in the early years, though not sure how well known the existence of the course is yet either.
Original post by Diadema
That is amazing !! :love:

Well, I was a double major before (specifically, English and Czech). I had Latin in highschool, Old Church Slavonic and Old English as electives during my studies. I can speak a little bit of Modern Greek, but haven't had the opportunity to study Ancient Greek :s-smilie:. Honestly, I'm still trying to decide which specialism to pick! I'm leaning towards C, however! :wink:

Yeah, in the best world ever *laughs*, that IS the prevailing opinion, I'm aware :biggrin:


haha you seem to love languages! Good luck with college allocation! Which one did you ask for?
Original post by Xristina
problem is you don't actually know how good his personal statement, or his essays are. For example, me and a friend of mine both got offers, both coming from the same university (the reason this is important is because we were both marked by the same people, with the same scale etc...) I finished with a 9 out of 10, which is good (first is 8,5> but it is generally easier to get 8,5 than it is in the UK to get the 70, so I'd say our 9 is the UK 70) but not unheard of. He finished with a 9,7 which I only know two other people who got the same mark. One is my professor, he did his PhD in Cambridge 20 years ago, with a full scholarship etc, another is a friend of mine doing her Masters here in Oxford with me.
The thing is, that out of me and my friend I got the AHRC, whereas he did not. This means that grades do not mean everything, and whereas the GRE won't really matter, he might be amazing in what he is doing, and if he is it will show somehow.


Can I ask, as regards AHRC funding, if you are given an offer of funding does it come with additional academic requirements? I have been given an offer of admission to Cambridge with 67% and am waiting to hear what the academic requirement for my Oxford offer is. If I am fortunate enough to be successful in the AHRC competition, will they, for instance, say I need to achieve 75% or 73%? I hope this post made sense!!
Original post by QMHistoryguy
Can I ask, as regards AHRC funding, if you are given an offer of funding does it come with additional academic requirements? I have been given an offer of admission to Cambridge with 67% and am waiting to hear what the academic requirement for my Oxford offer is. If I am fortunate enough to be successful in the AHRC competition, will they, for instance, say I need to achieve 75% or 73%? I hope this post made sense!!


it does make sense but as I already had my degree when I applied, I already had an unconditional offer. I've heard however that at least Oxford asks for a 70 for the AHRC.
Original post by Xristina
it does make sense but as I already had my degree when I applied, I already had an unconditional offer. I've heard however that at least Oxford asks for a 70 for the AHRC.


Thanks, fingers crossed now!
Original post by QMHistoryguy
Can I ask, as regards AHRC funding, if you are given an offer of funding does it come with additional academic requirements? I have been given an offer of admission to Cambridge with 67% and am waiting to hear what the academic requirement for my Oxford offer is. If I am fortunate enough to be successful in the AHRC competition, will they, for instance, say I need to achieve 75% or 73%? I hope this post made sense!!


So I guess you got a positive answer when you phoned them? If so, congrats! Any chance the secretary mentioned when they'd be sending decisions out? I want to know but can't bring myself to call...
Hi,
I've made a somewhat late decision to apply for Oxford, and only have until Friday to get everything in to be considered for funding.
The one thing that has stumped me with the application is the C.V. What exactly am i supposed to put on there that isnt covered in other sections? I'm going to assume they don't want a list of the various minimum wage jobs I've done. And as I've never won any awards, I don't really get what else i can put.
Any help would be massively appreciated.
Reply 597
Original post by JurassicPike
Hi,
I've made a somewhat late decision to apply for Oxford, and only have until Friday to get everything in to be considered for funding.
The one thing that has stumped me with the application is the C.V. What exactly am i supposed to put on there that isnt covered in other sections? I'm going to assume they don't want a list of the various minimum wage jobs I've done. And as I've never won any awards, I don't really get what else i can put.
Any help would be massively appreciated.


I put all my mimimum wage jobs in it :colondollar:. I'm pretty sure the fact that I was a nanny is what got me in
Original post by unchien_andalou
So I guess you got a positive answer when you phoned them? If so, congrats! Any chance the secretary mentioned when they'd be sending decisions out? I want to know but can't bring myself to call...


Thanks yes!! A very nerve raking phone call. She said that they should all go out this week, except a few 'complicated' cases... although on the phone they are not able to tell you the details of the offer... I strongly recommend ringing, although I should imagine they will be swamped with calls from historians reading this thread now word has got out they can tell oyu over the phone!
Original post by bookfaces
I put all my mimimum wage jobs in it :colondollar:. I'm pretty sure the fact that I was a nanny is what got me in


You got offered a place? Congrats!
In that case I'll up the C.V. as is. Hopefully my background as a builder and call centre worker will give me a veneer of proletarian authenticity :biggrin:

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