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so what's the deal with UoL deteriorating?!

right, ive read many a thread and post about the UoL splitting up or losing colleges or this college is leaving and that colege is buying out that college's union and the library is going bankrupt etc whatever.
can somebody please set the record straight on the current situation on the UoL. what is going on?
are college's leaving? will i be affected? what's happening? :frown:

Reply 1

username149848

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I've been wondering about this as well, and unfortunately am quite clueless in turn. There doesn't seem to be much public discussion of the broader issues in the last couple years (enough to show up in my search engine that is), yet these passing references keep coming to the surface. With Imperial leaving and UCL, LSE, and King's offering their own degrees and the increasing independence of the already very much independent recognised bodies it's hard to see anything but a severely weakened or even disbanded UoL down the line. I hope it doesn't come to that, every college would be weaker if the federal structure disappears (especially the small specialist places which make the UoL so terrific), but there is just so much momentum heading towards the bodies at the expense of the whole. It's really a sad sight to behold..

Reply 2

username196545

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I've been wondering too, aaaah, will keep a close eye on this thread!

Reply 3

francescarella

OP

18

eek! one of the main reasons 3 of my choice were UoL colleges was because i liked the fact it was a collegiate university and that it had links and it all sort of combined holistically to create one uber university.
and Central only joined the UoL in 2005 lol! eek!

Reply 4

username196545

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Yeah I liked that about QM too.
My mum's studying at the Institute of Education (university) and I know for a fact it's leaving the University of London as we speak.

Reply 5

mtbab

17

The Times Higher Education Supplement announced in February 2007 that the London School of Economics, University College London and King's College London all plan to start awarding their own degrees, rather than degrees from the federal University of London as they have done previously, from the start of the new academic year (starting in Autumn 2007). Although this plan to award their own degrees does not amount to a decision to formally leave the University of London, the THES suggests that this 'rais[es] new doubts about the future of the federal University of London'.

^^

Reply 6

RightSaidJames

16

For the record, I had to second guess what UoL meant, I'd imagine quite a few others did as well, because if you don't have any interest in studying in London you probably wouldn't have come across that acronym.

Reply 7

akmd

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The big 3 colleges (UCL, LSE and King's). despite now having the ability to award their own degrees as opposed to UoL ones, seem to want to remain part of the UoL for the time being. As long as it doesn't happen for at least another two years, then that's fine for me.

Reply 8

username43584

8

Tbh, I'm not at all sure what advantages UoL gives me. There is the library, however I have heard stories of Senate house librarians effectively telling UCL students to piss off because we have our own libraries. The union has good sports facilities but I've never used them and the bars are filled with grads rather than undergrads. These facilities are well and good, but is someone from QMUL etc going to travel up to Bloomsbury just for a drink or a swim? Although I can see than the UoL accommodation service is good for checking contracts and things like that. If the colleges split, then they'll have to provide these services themselves.

Reply 9

Master Polhem

15

The UoL is not a collegiate university in the same sense as Oxford, Cambridge and Durham. Each "college" if you will is in essence a seperate university in itself due to many factors but mainly due the size of each institution and the self sustainability in education terms each institution enjoys. The UoL has out grown itself and it no longer makes sense to have a UoL because each division functions as a seperate entitity anyway.

Reply 10

pharmakos

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becca2389

Tbh, I'm not at all sure what advantages UoL gives me. There is the library, however I have heard stories of Senate house librarians effectively telling UCL students to piss off because we have our own libraries. The union has good sports facilities but I've never used them and the bars are filled with grads rather than undergrads. These facilities are well and good, but is someone from QMUL etc going to travel up to Bloomsbury just for a drink or a swim? Although I can see than the UoL accommodation service is good for checking contracts and things like that. If the colleges split, then they'll have to provide these services themselves.

I'm a UCL student and have been using the Senate House Lib (more often than UCL Lib) for 4 years. I've never come across things like that (neither have all my UCL friends).

Reply 11

Vincente

14

I reckon it has a lot to do with the expansion of the colleges [UoL] when the government tried to further increase student numbers during the early 1990s. Up until this point my father lectured at the largest college which only had 3,000 students (king's) despite being practically autonomous from the UoL since the late 1970s (before that the UoL was a collegiate university) aside exams and funding. As student numbers swollen up to 8,000-20,000+ these semi-autonomous colleges sought to be full universities in their own right and numerous mergers with small institutions occured (though mergers occured bit earlier too hence there were loads of other colleges which we would have never heard of).

however I have heard stories of Senate house librarians effectively telling UCL students to piss off because we have our own libraries.

How does this explain that UCL has more of its students using Sentae House than any other colleges?

so what's the deal with UoL deteriorating?!

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