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Neutral Tones and When we two parted comparison

Hi! I'm currently revising for my english lit exam, which is covering poetry anthology love and relationships comparisons. I was hoping if someone could have a look at my essay and give me any sort of feedback, as this is my first time writing an essay for a poetry anthology. Here it is below:


General Comparison of “When We two Parted” and “Neutral Tones”

“When we two parted” and “Neutral Tones” both use themes of death and memory to reflect on the loss of a relationship and the despair experienced due to it.

Hardy sets the scene in neutral tones and introduces the themes of memory and reflection as the speaker describes how ‘we stood by a pond that winter day’ - the use of the personal pronoun ‘we’ conveys how the speaker sees them as a couple, possibly hinting that his partner was to blame for the end of their relationship. Contrastingly, in when we two parted, Byron gives a more emotional approach, stating that the speaker and his partner ‘parted in silence and tears’; this displays internalised feelings and that their parting was intense and ended with ‘silence’, meaning that loss of communication was involved in their break-up.

Both Hardy and Byron use death imagery to convey the death of a relationship. Hardy uses an oxymoron to describe how the speaker’s partner’s smile ‘was the deadest thing’ - a smile should express happiness, whereas in this context, it forebodes the falling out of their relationship. This can communicate the small hints of withdrawal from their commitment to each other. Similarly, Byron uses metaphorical and sensory language to embody the repulsion the speaker feels at even the sound of his ex-lover, as it's a ‘knell in mine ear’. A knell connotes to a ringing of a funeral, depicting how his ex-lover is dead to him, emphasising the theme of death within the poem.

Both poems end with a reference to the beginning, using a cyclical structure. This demonstrates how each speakers’ depression and melancholy is ongoing and repetitive - as they are trapped between their longing for the relationship and the reality presented to them. Byron is more explicit in the expression of his grief, using an ABAB fixed rhyme scheme indicating the endlessness of his mourning, however, Hardy uses a closed ABBA rhyme scheme to suppress his sense of loss and going nowhere.

When we two parted and Neutral Tones explore death and romantic loss from a pessimistic and gloomy perspective, with Neutral Tones communicating the dejection faced from a relationship through the use of natural imagery and pathetic fallacy, while When we two parted uses explicit language to provoke emotion from the reader.

Thanks :smile:
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Original post by *LifeHappens*
Hi! I'm currently revising for my english lit exam, which is covering poetry anthology love and relationships comparisons. I was hoping if someone could have a look at my essay and give me any sort of feedback, as this is my first time writing an essay for a poetry anthology. Here it is below:


General Comparison of “When We two Parted” and “Neutral Tones”

“When we two parted” and “Neutral Tones” both use themes of death and memory to reflect on the loss of a relationship and the despair experienced due to it.

Hardy sets the scene in neutral tones and introduces the themes of memory and reflection as the speaker describes how ‘we stood by a pond that winter day’ - the use of the personal pronoun ‘we’ conveys how the speaker sees them as a couple, possibly hinting that his partner was to blame for the end of their relationship. Contrastingly, in when we two parted, Byron gives a more emotional approach, stating that the speaker and his partner ‘parted in silence and tears’; this displays internalised feelings and that their parting was intense and ended with ‘silence’, meaning that loss of communication was involved in their break-up.

Both Hardy and Byron use death imagery to convey the death of a relationship. Hardy uses an oxymoron to describe how the speaker’s partner’s smile ‘was the deadest thing’ - a smile should express happiness, whereas in this context, it forebodes the falling out of their relationship. This can communicate the small hints of withdrawal from their commitment to each other. Similarly, Byron uses metaphorical and sensory language to embody the repulsion the speaker feels at even the sound of his ex-lover, as it's a ‘knell in mine ear’. A knell connotes to a ringing of a funeral, depicting how his ex-lover is dead to him, emphasising the theme of death within the poem.

Both poems end with a reference to the beginning, using a cyclical structure. This demonstrates how each speakers’ depression and melancholy is ongoing and repetitive - as they are trapped between their longing for the relationship and the reality presented to them. Byron is more explicit in the expression of his grief, using an ABAB fixed rhyme scheme indicating the endlessness of his mourning, however, Hardy uses a closed ABBA rhyme scheme to suppress his sense of loss and going nowhere.

When we two parted and Neutral Tones explore death and romantic loss from a pessimistic and gloomy perspective, with Neutral Tones communicating the dejection faced from a relationship through the use of natural imagery and pathetic fallacy, while When we two parted uses explicit language to provoke emotion from the reader.

Thanks :smile:


1) the essay for the actual exam needs to be a lot longer
2) your introduction is very short, how would you say the two poems are similiar, are they not?
3) Not sure if this is necessary but I put in a bit of context about the two poems in the introduction
4) The essay is really well done - you talked about rhyme scheme, structure and some literary techniques.
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Original post by _user_
1) the essay for the actual exam needs to be a lot longer
2) your introduction is very short, how would you say the two poems are similiar, are they not?
3) Not sure if this is necessary but I put in a bit of context about the two poems in the introduction
4) The essay is really well done - you talked about rhyme scheme, structure and some literary techniques.

Thanks for your quick reply!
Yes, I am aware the essay is relatively short, and I didn't comment on all things, just the main bits.
I agree with you about the introduction, I found it a bit difficult linking the two poems in a general way at the start, but will expand on that.
I completely missed out the context! I remembered it at some point, but the only problem was I couldn't fit it in anywhere without it sticking out a bit oddly, but for both neutral tones and when we two parted, the context is quite simple anyway, so it shouldn't be too hard to comment on it.
Thank you for your feedback, have a good weekend! :smile:
Original post by *LifeHappens*
Thanks for your quick reply!
Yes, I am aware the essay is relatively short, and I didn't comment on all things, just the main bits.
I agree with you about the introduction, I found it a bit difficult linking the two poems in a general way at the start, but will expand on that.
I completely missed out the context! I remembered it at some point, but the only problem was I couldn't fit it in anywhere without it sticking out a bit oddly, but for both neutral tones and when we two parted, the context is quite simple anyway, so it shouldn't be too hard to comment on it.
Thank you for your feedback, have a good weekend! :smile:

whats the context of those 2 poems?
Original post by Icantchoose
whats the context of those 2 poems?

When we two parted:

Lord Byron was a notorious romantic poet who had an affair with Lady Webster in 1813 (so the poem might be related to their relationship)

He lied and said the poem was written in 1808 to keep their affair a secret and prevent rumours


Neutral tones:

Thomas Hardy was often a pessimistc poet/novelist which may have reflected in the imagery used in his poem



You can do more research if you want to, but the above is just a simplified version of my notes
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Original post by *LifeHappens*
When we two parted:

Lord Byron was a notorious romantic poet who had an affair with Lady Webster in 1813 (so the poem might be related to their relationship)

He lied and said the poem was written in 1808 to keep their affair a secret and prevent rumours


Neutral tones:

Thomas Hardy was often a pessimistc poet/novelist which may have reflected in the imagery used in his poem



You can do more research if you want to, but the above is just a simplified version of my notes

Thank youuu so u know any for winter swans x I have mocks tmrw 😭 so I'm hoping it's either winter swans, neutral tones or when we two parted because I know those very well
Original post by Icantchoose
Thank youuu so u know any for winter swans x I have mocks tmrw 😭 so I'm hoping it's either winter swans, neutral tones or when we two parted because I know those very well

Oh yea ofc, here's my context for winter swans:

Owen Sheers was a Welsh poet where Winter swans was put into a poetry collection called Skirrid Hill

Skirrid means separation/divorce in Welsh (which may set a theme for the poem Winter Swans)

He was interested in nature + romantic poets (reflected in the use of imagery in this poem)


Good luck for mocks!
Original post by *LifeHappens*
Oh yea ofc, here's my context for winter swans:

Owen Sheers was a Welsh poet where Winter swans was put into a poetry collection called Skirrid Hill

Skirrid means separation/divorce in Welsh (which may set a theme for the poem Winter Swans)

He was interested in nature + romantic poets (reflected in the use of imagery in this poem)


Good luck for mocks!

Thank you so much! <3
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Original post by *LifeHappens*
Thanks for your quick reply!
Yes, I am aware the essay is relatively short, and I didn't comment on all things, just the main bits.
I agree with you about the introduction, I found it a bit difficult linking the two poems in a general way at the start, but will expand on that.
I completely missed out the context! I remembered it at some point, but the only problem was I couldn't fit it in anywhere without it sticking out a bit oddly, but for both neutral tones and when we two parted, the context is quite simple anyway, so it shouldn't be too hard to comment on it.
Thank you for your feedback, have a good weekend! :smile:

how would you advise the introduction to compare these two poems
Original post by wm4
how would you advise the introduction to compare these two poems
Usually I don't include any quotes, instead I start with the opening sentence that links to the question like:

The theme of ________ is presented in poem X and poem Y through [overview of what theme presents like symbolism, imagery, structure etc.].

And then you can expand on that a bit by discussing the poet's intentions, the key message and why the poet made that specific theme so prominent in the poem.

But make sure the introduction is maximum 4-5 lines long as it's supposed to be a very brief introduction to your essay.

I hope that helped!

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