Zionism= Racism

jamessimth5

Because for Israel to be wholly Jewish it would have to force out Israeli muslims, christians and druze.

Japan and Korea on the other hand simply have to restrict immigration.

Sure, but how is the fundamental ideology different?

I do know that for Japan to be completely ethnically homogeneous it would have to expel over a million Koreans, Chinese and native Ainu.

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Seven_Three

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If zionism isn't racist, neither is the BNP.

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Seven_Three

If zionism isn't racist, neither is the BNP.

Or any other movement espousing homogeneous ethnic homelands for that matter.

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jamessimth5

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ypo

Sure, but how is the fundamental ideology different?

I do know that for Japan to be completely ethnically homogeneous it would have to expel over a million Koreans, Chinese and native Ainu.

The Japs accept the Koreans to be similar to themselves, just like the Nazi's claimed affnity to Swedes, native french .etc.

There is quite a fundamental difference in a 60-year old country hated by much of the world and indeed its neighbours expelling people who were mainly there before the jews emigrated on mass back to Israel and Japan and korea restricting immigration.

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Seven_Three

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ypo

Or any other movement espousing homogeneous ethnic homelands for that matter.

Well actually I take that back. You could call Zionists racist because they want to set up a new state in land which was not theirs (wether it is now is debatable), the BNP only want to keep what is thiers so to speak.
'Racism' is a meaningless concept anyway, nothing and everything is racist so it has no meaning.

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jamessimth5

The Japs accept the Koreans to be similar to themselves, just like the Nazi's claimed affnity to Swedes, native french .etc.

They certainly do not. Colonization and Korean slavery aside, the Japanese by no means consider themselves similar to Koreans. The notion of a common origin for the Korean and Japanese languages is a huge taboo in Japan. From my experiences in Japan, I would say the Japanese are more likely to associate themselves culturally with Westerners than Koreans or any other East Asians for that matter.

jamessimth5

There is quite a fundamental difference in a 60-year old country hated by much of the world

Japan is absolutely hated by literally all of East Asia.

jamessimth5

and indeed its neighbours expelling people who were mainly there before the jews emigrated on mass back to Israel and Japan and korea restricting immigration.

The Ainu are native to Japan. Japanese nationalist groups don't seem to be concerned with this fact...

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Seven_Three

'Racism' is a meaningless concept anyway, nothing and everything is racist so it has no meaning.

Agreed. Can anyone here actually define, in their own words, what racism is?

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Seven_Three

Well actually I take that back. You could call Zionists racist because they want to set up a new state in land which was not theirs (wether it is now is debatable), the BNP only want to keep what is thiers so to speak.
'Racism' is a meaningless concept anyway, nothing and everything is racist so it has no meaning.

Care to expand on the bit in bold?

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reems23

Care to expand on the bit in bold?

How do you define racism?

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ypo

Agreed. Can anyone here actually define, in their own words, what racism is?

Discrimination against a group of people because of there country of origin [or ethnic background].

That wasn't so hard?

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economicsessex

would you believe it - the british/european royal family and there serving politicians are zionists?

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Seven_Three

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reems23

Discrimination against a group of people because of there country of origin.

That wasn't so hard?

So is positive discrimination racism? The Labour party do that. And so I can technically be racist to someone from Wales even if both my parents are from Wales, but I live in England? That doesn't make much sense does it.

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reems23

Discrimination against a group of people because of there country of origin.

That wasn't so hard?

By this logic saying Nigerians are on average darker in skin complexion than Swedes is racist since it explicity notes and perceives a difference (i.e. discriminates) between two groups with different countries of origin.

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Seven_Three

So is positive discrimination racism? The Labour party do that. And so I can technically be racist to someone from Wales even if both my parents are from Wales, but I live in England? That doesn't make much sense does it.

Well by definition you are correct, it is still racism. But as you said, the examples don't make sense, and so a little bit of common sense is required. My definition was only a brief one. If you want a definitive one, the oxford dictionary is the way forward.

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economicsessex

would you believe it - the british/european royal family and there serving politicians are zionists?

No I wouldn't believe it.

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ypo

By this logic saying Nigerians are on average darker in skin complexion than Swedes is racist since it explicity notes and perceives a difference (i.e. discriminates) between two groups with different countries of origin.

1. to make a distinction in favor of or against a person or thing on the basis of the group, class, or category to which the person or thing belongs rather than according to actual merit; show partiality: The new law discriminates against foreigners. He discriminates in favor of his relatives.
2. to note or observe a difference; distinguish accurately: to discriminate between things.

I was using definition one.

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rlw31

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ypo

By this logic saying Nigerians are on average darker in skin complexion than Swedes is racist since it explicity notes and perceives a difference (i.e. discriminates) between two groups with different countries of origin.

Discrimination is acting on a prejudice, how is noting differences discrimination?

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