Why Europe should thank the US

Well, we pretty much saved europe three times over the 20th century. We saved you from the germans twice, WWI and WWII and then we saved you from the USSR after WWII.

First off it is won, not one.

Secondly in WW2 America jumped in at the last minute, debateable how much influence they had, most likely would have gone the same way.

And what exactly is wrong with that?

You see communist as evil. Why? Because you have been brought up in a capitalist society.

What if you weren't? What if you were born intoa communist country, you would be adapted to the life.

Look at the world today, it's crumbling economically.

I think communism does not work, but you are making ridiculous assumptions.

As well as this, as much of a massive JFK fan I am, they sure ensured my survival of my way of life but there have been a damn good few times when they've managed to endanger it, especially in that era.

To be honest I'm just throwing stuff out there, but you seem a bit vague and one of those uneducated people who throw their hat into the ring so I'm gonna leave it here.

WWI? Fool are you serious? You're saying that America saved Britain (and France) during the Great War?
Never have I heard such an insult. Explain yourself now. I will write a entire fricking essay detailing why that statement is a load of crap. And from how I've pretty much destroyed everything you've said in the 'Should England join the US and leave the EU?' thread, you must know that I can and will. So either retract and apologize or explain.

It is often said that the Soviets won WWII for the allies, and that American's are stupid for believing they played a pivotal role on the European front.

This may be a fair criticism, from a military point of view. In a political sense, though, the US did play the role of savior to Western Europe.

It was the US that ensured Western Europe would develop into prosperous, liberal, democracies by preventing Soviet influence from spreading West.

You can all whinge on about the US being evil imperialists, but the fact of the matter is that they ensured the survival of your way of life. As much as you may hate it.

Edit:
Whoops, I forgot that all the left-wing, "internationalist", self-hating, youth on here hate their own country and hate the fact that it doesn't resemble Venezuela. My bad.

Hah. The negs really blew up on this one.

What is happening to the world today is not a rise of Communism; it's just a transfer of power. China are no longer communist, they're just socialist..

There's been no real difference. Your country stamps his foot down all over the world, dictates what can and can't be done, interferes with global affairs that have nothing to do with you and renowned for it's gun-ready approach to anything.

Sounds familiar.

Can't we all admit that the US and to a lesser extent, russia and britain all played roles in stopping Nazi germany during the war?

Of course they all made a contribution and you also ignore the rebel uprisings in the Nazi occupied countries. The US' supplying of arms and men helped both Britain and the USSR and allowed for the liberation of Berlin. But to be fair, America had prolonged the war as they were supplying arms to Nazi Germany right up until 1941.

Of course they all made a contribution and you also ignore the rebel uprisings in the Nazi occupied countries. The US' supplying of arms and men helped both Britain and the USSR and allowed for the liberation of Berlin. But to be fair, America had prolonged the war as they were supplying arms to Nazi Germany right up until 1941.

How did America jump in at the last minute? WW2 was 1939-45; America joined in 1941...

What is happening to the world today is not a rise of Communism; it's just a transfer of power. China are no longer communist, they're just socialist.

Every country will always act in its own interests, and the USA was very much responsible for stopping the spread of Communism, through Marshall Aid, the Korean/Vietnam wars.

They have always been there when we needed them, and I'm sure that the time will arise again in the future where we need their help, and they come riding to the rescue.

You guys still haven't thanked the French for saving your ass during the war of independence.

But without the help of the Soviet Union, such threads like this wouldn't exist, except maybe on Studentroom.de. Point is, we have the Soviet Union to thank for inflicting 85% of WWII German casualties - if this had not been the case, the D-Day landings could have been met with over 100 divisions, which would have utterly destroyed any chance of success.

Your post would be of a far greater quality if you didn't use such puerile, simplistic and largely innaccurate definitions.

I don't see what's so wrong about it - China is effectively run by social democrats, just without the 'democrats' part being valid - i.e. they accept the role of Capitalism, but feel that state intervention is important

Yes, they can be simply invaded, America famously threatened Pakistan that it will bomb it "back to the stone age" despite Pakistan being a nuclear power, the US wouldn't have said that if they didn't preventive measures against the Pakistani nuclear threat. They violated Pakistan's sovereignty when they landed their troops there and took out Bin Laden and they continue to violate Pakistan's air space with their drones.

I don't want to force the issue, but the reality is, Europe would not be the same again without US influence, it would be much much worse for the UK and its allies.

How did America jump in at the last minute? WW2 was 1939-45; America joined in 1941...

What is happening to the world today is not a rise of Communism; it's just a transfer of power. China are no longer communist, they're just socialist.

Every country will always act in its own interests, and the USA was very much responsible for stopping the spread of Communism, through Marshall Aid, the Korean/Vietnam wars.

They have always been there when we needed them, and I'm sure that the time will arise again in the future where we need their help, and they come riding to the rescue.

I don't remember people being insensitive about the earthquake in Japan. In fact, we gave a lot of aid to Japan after the tsunami. Even if people were insensitive, does that make it acceptable to be insensitive about the attack on Pearl Harbor?



We didn't enter the war to profiteer. We lost over 400,000 American troops during the war, defending you and the allies in the pacific.

Also, it's spelled 'Pearl Harbor' - I know you are english, but it is a place name.

It's the truth. Communism doesn't work. I don't see how that is mocking the mass culls out there.



It is an oil state. Its GDP is nothing to do with social policies. I'd say it is a state that is successful, despite its socialist policies.

Apart from the fact that the only oil rich country in Scandinavia (which isn't a state, once again proving your stupidity) is Norway. Please explain the wealth of Sweden and Denmark.