Scotland Yard Racism...

Not relevant to the thread but if a yout is throwing rocks, nicking trainers etc I expect that they will at least give that yout a slap.

Problem being the public expects different things. I expect humanity from police, ambulance, fire.

I see.

So because of this 'history', the only possible -ism that matters is racism, specifically racism against black people.

By the way, you were the one introducing 'history lessons'. Lest we forget, eh? Sins of the father and all that.

I see.

So because of this 'history', the only possible -ism that matters is racism, specifically racism against black people.

Who said this? I don't think anybody said this.

I see.

So because of this 'history', the only possible -ism that matters is racism, specifically racism against black people.

By the way, you were the one introducing 'history lessons'. Lest we forget, eh? Sins of the father and all that.

It was clearly implied.

Otherwise why would he dig up the history of slavery in reference to racism? That is only relevant to anti-black racism.

Totally ignoring the fact that you can be racist against any race.

Why do you need to bring 'slavery' into the argument to justify laws against racism, where racism in general (including that against Asians or Jews) is concerned?

Yes, nothing else matters, that's what I said.

You appeared to be running down the significance of racism towards blacks, if you honestly believe ginger people and the disabled have received discrimination to warrant as much attention as racism towards black people then you need serious help.

Yes, nothing else matters, that's what I said.

You appeared to be running down the significance of racism towards blacks, if you honestly believe ginger people and the disabled have received discrimination to warrant as much attention as racism towards black people then you need serious help.

I was pointing out how ridiculous it is to have laws against racism and discrimination that only apply when both of the following are true.

- if you are a minority
- your people have suffered a major injustice at some point in the history of humanity

And clearly you believe that should be the case. Otherwise why would you bring up slavery in the argument at all?

Apart from personally believing that all forms of discrimination should be acted against equally, I would say disabled people HAVE had a worse time of it than black people. Black people can be disabled! Also, people were abusing disabled people - leaving them out to die from exposure, long, long before anyone in england realised there was a place called africa where africans would sell you other africans.

Discrimination isn't spread equally among minority groups.

I brought up slavery as a simple reminder as to why racism, specifically towards black people, is such a hot topic and will always be considered a higher priority than most other forms of discrimination. I could have mentioned the John Crow laws. You were acting as though discrimination is equally spread among all races and minority groups - disabled etc.

I brought up slavery as a simple reminder as to why racism, specifically towards black people, is such a hot topic and will always be considered a higher priority than most other forms of discrimination. I could have mentioned the John Crow laws. You were acting as though discrimination is equally spread among all races and minority groups - disabled etc.

Apart from personally believing that all forms of discrimination should be acted against equally, I would say disabled people HAVE had a worse time of it than black people. Black people can be disabled! Also, people were abusing disabled people - leaving them out to die from exposure, long, long before anyone in england realised there was a place called africa where africans would sell you other africans.

I'm just wondering, what was the relevance of this comment in the point you were making?

Who decides how discriminated against certain groups are?

What of my point about disabled people.

It isn't at the forefront of debate because it simply isn't as widespread. This is purely a matter of how we interpret things, I don't think we're about to put together a paper each to argue our point.

In reply to this:

Originally Posted by AP1989
Yes, nothing else matters, that's what I said.

You appeared to be running down the significance of racism towards blacks, if you honestly believe ginger people and the disabled have received discrimination to warrant as much attention as racism towards black people then you need serious help.

I was correcting him.

Sauce please.