Circumcision ban is the 'worst attack on Jews since Holocaust'

Are you seriously trying to equate the value of going to school i.e. becoming literate, numerate, educated, without which one has virtually no future prospects, with circumcision? I don't have a personal position on circumcision because I don't know enough about it, although I did read an article a while ago about some middle aged men very, very angry that they'd been circumcised. But that is one false analogy!

Lemme just take your last point, as someone else has taken care of the first and I've seen the argument before. If they're asleep and don't remember it, where's the harm?

Well, first of all I'm pretty sure they're not asleep most of the time, and if they are anaesthetic is a very tricky thing, you ever seen the shows on tv where they have to operate on a tiger before it wakes up and eats them?

Also, if I introduce your face to a chloroform rag, then carve out your appendix, is it alright because it didn't hurt, you don't remember it and it stopped you maybe getting ill in the future?

And that's without going into the trauma it must inflict on the poor thing.

wow u need to do reasearch on it
my lil cousin recently done it and the dr first places cream on it
and then cuts the loose piece of skin

and the appendix argument is a joke that is useless
so go do ure hwk on circumsition
IT DOSENT HURT

A vaccination is good for a child's health. A circumcision is a lifelong aesthetic commitment, that has no health benefits apart from slightly easier hygiene down there. How can you equate the two?

But the child has no say in it and, phrase it delicately or not, it boils down to an irreversible genital mutilation.

Some parents have their child's ear pierced....how is that good for the child?

How many circumcised men actually feel 'mutilated' and if they could be uncircumcised they would do so, can you tell us as a percentage please.

You see no such research exists, and until you can provide some substantiaql evidence that curcumcised men feel mutilated, your argument has no foundation.

This is simply an attack on Muslim and Jews. The same as how people attack Kosher and Halal meat yet do not complain much about battery farms.

As long as there is a single man who didn't want to be circumcised then it is wrong. Even if there are none by chance it is wrong to make the permanent change on a parents choice alone.
No research needs to exist - it's a breach of free will and, like I said, as long as there is one man who dislikes his involuntary circumcision that is enough for it to be banned in my opinion.

If anything, it's an attack on traditional Muslim and Jewish culture, not the people themselves in any way.

Why are the German government trying to offer religious exemptions?

It's either acceptable or it isn't, religion should have no bearing on genital mutilation.

If Jews don't like it, they can move to Israel.

Some parents have their child's ear pierced....how is that good for the child?

How many circumcised men actually feel 'mutilated' and if they could be uncircumcised they would do so, can you tell us as a percentage please.

This is simply an attack on Muslim and Jews. The same as how people attack Kosher and Halal meat yet do not complain much about battery farms.

Muslims and Jews can just go on a holiday to Usrael or a muslim country, and have it done there, if the Germans want to be awkward they can, circumcision does no harm if done properly.

Any type of surgery on infants is against free will so that again isn't a valid reason, beside that scientific research shows circumciion helps to reduce spread of aids and hiv

I agree with you, I also don't see how religion should allow individuals to have different legal statuses.

You're welcome to explain why it will be illegal for an atheist to have their child circumcised but perfectly legal for a Jew, under the German governments proposals.

Genital mutilation is genital mutilation, I don't give a **** what sky daddy you prance around to under the full moon.

It is a valid reason, because surgery on infants is usually done for their wellbeing. Something with as vast a cosmetic and quality of sex effect as a circumcision should be a choice, not something you have to live with just because your parents follow a religion. By the time a child becomes sexually active enough to risk exposure to AIDS and HIV they should be able to make the decision themselves, even though I'm pretty sure that research has been largely disproven. Sterilising people would also reduce the spread of AIDS and HIV, but once again a condom is a preferable alternative.

Adult circumcisions take much longer to heal and therefore more prone to infections

Child ones are against free will and may permanantly leave a man unhappy with his genitalia. Adults can weigh up the risks of the surgery and their beliefs and come to a rational decision of their own volition.

You can get foreskin restoration these days