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Reply 40
Original post by cole-slaw
1. Smoking in enclosed public spaces is illegal. Unless you're sitting on the smoker's lap, it is impossible to be exposed to enough smoke in the outdoors to ever damage your lungs. The pollution from car fumes are 100x more significant.

not in your own home it isn't. My mum ****ed up my respiratory system smoking in our house when I was a child. That's why I hate people smoking around me its like blarghhh :'(
Original post by Robbie242
Stop trying to justify smoking, it brings along several negative externalities which impact people in everyday society. Yeah well addiction to playing sport isn't as harmful and having lifelong cancer after smoking too much is it?

So what if its covered? We shouldn't have to deal with the cost in the first place. Well haven't you heard of those stories where parents are smoking around their children at home, which is highly irresponsible and could severely damage their children's lungs


Original post by redferry
not in your own home it isn't. My mum ****ed up my respiratory system smoking in our house when I was a child. That's why I hate people smoking around me its like blarghhh :'(


My aunt has terminal lung cancer, and never smoked, and doctors suggested passive smoking may be the cause. I have no problem with people smoking but do it away from others
The truth is : People don't like the idea of anyone being happier/more secure than your average Joe or Joanne.

If someone tells you about their new love of vegetarianism, we naturally worry that they are doing something better than what we're doing. And that threatens us.
We like people to do what we do, because it's likely to give them the same results that we have. We feel crap (we all do - we're humans), so at least if everyone else does what we do, they'll all feel just as crap, which makes us feel less crap.

Think about the person who's always been 'fat'. They start to lose weight, and why do people tell them to stop, or just become bitchy, or just suddenly have an opinion. Because it makes them feel worse seeing someone do something that may make them happy.
They start to doubt the things that they do differently.
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Original post by Anonymous Coward
The truth is : People don't like the idea of anyone being happier/more secure than your average Joe or Joanne.

If someone tells you about their new love of vegetarianism, we naturally worry that they are doing something better than what we're doing. And that threatens us.
We like people to do what we do, because it's likely to give them the same results that we have. We feel crap (we all do - we're humans), so at least if everyone else does what we do, they'll all feel just as crap, which makes us feel less crap.

Think about the person who's always been 'fat'. They start to lose weight, and why do people tell them to stop, or just become bitchy, or just suddenly have an opinion. Because it makes them feel worse seeing someone do something that may make them happy.
They start to doubt the things that they do differently.


Interesting argument. I wouldn't say "we all do" though, personally I've never felt like that
Reply 44
Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
My aunt has terminal lung cancer, and never smoked, and doctors suggested passive smoking may be the cause. I have no problem with people smoking but do it away from others


Yeah my great uncle got throat cancer - he didn't give up smoking until he was put on a recovery ward with a 25 year old guy with terminal lung cancer who had never smoked in his life.

I have a problem with parents smoking, it really affected me as a child. Just broken promise after broken promise, and now my sense of smell is crap and I struggle to breathe while I am eating.
Original post by redferry
I think I can speak for the vegetarianism one as a recent convert.

People feel the need to justify themselves by attacking vegetarians as they feel threatened by the fact vegetarians are 'strong enough' to take a very moral life choice which they themselves are unwilling to do. It threatens them as they feel like vegetarians see themselves as/are seen as morally superior.

They feel the need to justify their life choices in the face of that and for many people it means attacking that lifestyle.


It is annoying when vegetarians harp on about it though, in the same way you get with party workers in politics. I'm happy to cook something veggie for you but one of my mate's girlfriends has a habit of then telling us all what scumbags we are for eating meat and how we're responsible for endless suffering/global warming. This was particularly galling given the beef was from the local farm shop and she rocked up in 3.5 litre Z4.

It's not really common but does seem to happen with a particularly virulent subset, and it's as annoying as people who tell you how superior they are for going to the gym.
Original post by redferry
Yeah my great uncle got throat cancer - he didn't give up smoking until he was put on a recovery ward with a 25 year old guy with terminal lung cancer who had never smoked in his life.

I have a problem with parents smoking, it really affected me as a child. Just broken promise after broken promise, and now my sense of smell is crap and I struggle to breathe while I am eating.


That's horrible :frown: :frown:
Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
Interesting argument. I wouldn't say "we all do" though, personally I've never felt like that


Is there a person on earth (beyond a certain age) who feels:

"If I had the opportunity to be born again, I wouldn't change any decisions I've ever made, I wouldn't do anything differently, and I wouldn't change a single thing about myself"

I doubt it. Nobody (beyond a certain age) is completely happy with their life. Everybody feels down about things sometimes. And the thought of anyone else being completely happy makes us feel threatened, without doubt.

We're all happier to be as unhappy/satisfied as each other by doing the same things, eating the same stuff, wearing the same things, acting the same way, making the same money.

Damn anyone who acts differently to everyone else, and has the audacity to look happy whilst doing so. They should be doing what we do, and feeling what we feel.
Thus, we try to bring them down to our level by telling them what they do is wrong or stupid.
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Reply 48
Humans are social animals and in all social groups there is a set of rules (either explicitly or implicitly) that all members are expected to follow; those who break these rules are often shunned to ensure group coherency, though arguably we have outgrown the need for this to an extent. I can't remember exactly but I recall hearing that there are examples of this in other species as well.

Edit: I should probably point out that I'm not saying whether this is right or wrong but merely suggesting a possible explanation
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Reply 49
Wtf are some people even saying?
People are allowed to have opinions on whatever they want
Reply 50
Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
That's horrible :frown: :frown:


Yeah mum used to make me do things by promising she would give up smoking 'if you stop sucking your fingers I will give up smoking' 'if you get level 6 sats I'll give up smoking' etc etc etc

she still smokes. Well, she's switched to e-cigarettes
Reply 51
Original post by Le Nombre
It is annoying when vegetarians harp on about it though, in the same way you get with party workers in politics. I'm happy to cook something veggie for you but one of my mate's girlfriends has a habit of then telling us all what scumbags we are for eating meat and how we're responsible for endless suffering/global warming.


She just sounds like a know though. These are they type of people that if they weren't harping on about vegetarianism they would be preaching about something else. I eat meat if it's put in front of me, I don't see it as a huge issue.


This was particularly galling given the beef was from the local farm shop and she rocked up in 3.5 litre Z4.


I hope you told her what a hypocrite she is!


It's not really common but does seem to happen with a particularly virulent subset, and it's as annoying as people who tell you how superior they are for going to the gym.


ugh I hate all these people. Same goes for people that volunteer and brag about it. Some of us don't have the funds to work for free...
Original post by Anonymous Coward
Is there a person on earth (beyond a certain age) who feels:

"If I had the opportunity to be born again, I wouldn't change any decisions I've ever made, I wouldn't do anything differently, and I wouldn't change a single thing about myself"

I doubt it. Nobody (beyond a certain age) is completely happy with their life. Everybody feels down about things sometimes. And the thought of anyone else being completely happy makes us feel threatened, without doubt.

We're all happier to be as unhappy/satisfied as each other by doing the same things, eating the same stuff, wearing the same things, acting the same way, making the same money.

Damn anyone who acts differently to everyone else, and has the audacity to look happy whilst doing so. They should be doing what we do, and feeling what we feel.
Thus, we try to bring them down to our level by telling them what they do is wrong or stupid.


I can honestly say I regret nothing. Everything I've done has made me who I am, and I wouldn't change any of it.

I also don't feel threatened by someone else being completely happy, and I wouldn't want other people to feel **** if I was feeling ****? Wtf? I also don't give a **** how other people dress? I also don't understand jealousy though, never felt it, so :dontknow:

I get your point, but to suggest everyone thinks like that is wrong. Some of us aren't so petty and childish.
Original post by Mebeat
Wtf are some people even saying?
People are allowed to have opinions on whatever they want


Umm... Nobody is disputing whether one has the right to an opinion.

We're asking why people seem to have such string opinions one what other people do (which rarely affects them).
And it's a very interesting topic, to be honest.
Original post by redferry
Yeah mum used to make me do things by promising she would give up smoking 'if you stop sucking your fingers I will give up smoking' 'if you get level 6 sats I'll give up smoking' etc etc etc

she still smokes. Well, she's switched to e-cigarettes


That's really mean :frown: My mum's dad used to smoke, and when my mum's sister came home crying from a biology lesson saying "dad you're going to die" he gave up there and then

Sadly, she's the one who now has cancer. My grandparents feel really guilty, although they smoked before they knew the dangers of smoking
Reply 55
Original post by Robbie242
Stop trying to justify smoking, it brings along several negative externalities which impact people in everyday society. Yeah well addiction to playing sport isn't as harmful and having lifelong cancer after smoking too much is it?

So what if its covered? We shouldn't have to deal with the cost in the first place. Well haven't you heard of those stories where parents are smoking around their children at home, which is highly irresponsible and could severely damage their children's lungs



I pointed out the problems with your initial 3 points, and you have not come up with any more, so I shall end this discussion with these three points.

With its high tax rates, smoking actually creates a positive externality.

The comparison between playing sport and smoking is inadmissable as you are now talking about the effects that the participant are willingly and knowlingly taking upon themselves, which is exactly the type of argument this entire thread is complaining about.

Parents smoking around children is to be discouraged I agree, however this is a specific case and has nothing to do with smokers in general.
Original post by Anonymous Coward
Umm... Nobody is disputing whether one has the right to an opinion.

We're asking why people seem to have such string opinions one what other people do (which rarely affects them).
And it's a very interesting topic, to be honest.


It is interesting. I want to know what makes people act this way. Had some very good points
Reply 57
Original post by Anonymous Coward
Umm... Nobody is disputing whether one has the right to an opinion.

We're asking why people seem to have such string opinions one what other people do (which rarely affects them).
And it's a very interesting topic, to be honest.

No it's not.
People will always have opinion on things that don't affect them and there's no rule saying you should have a strong opinion ONLY on something that affects you directly..
Original post by Mebeat
No it's not.
People will always have opinion on things that don't affect them and there's no rule saying you should have a strong opinion on something that affects you directly..


Who said there's a rule?
Reply 59
Original post by Anonymous Coward
Who said there's a rule?

Exactly :facepalm:
Then why is everyone discussing this useless ****?

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