How the right respond to hate crime against gay people.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/13/sky-news-homophobia-orlando-sexuality
"Today, the “we only care about LGBT rights if Muslims are involved” brigade are out in force. "
They only feign interest in LGBT rights if a Muslim commits a hate crime against the LGBT community. Some can not even feign interest in LGBT rights. they themselves can not even consider it as a hate crime against gay people. LGBT are not a demographic that exist. A demographic that can be targeted. It is only an attack on party goers.
The gut reaction to deny it as an attack on the LGBT community, or to deny even the existence of the LGBT as a community at all, less than 24 hours after the attack, is homophobic. Imagine if straight after the Paris attacks we had people saying "Not Parisians killed, humans killed".
"Today, the “we only care about LGBT rights if Muslims are involved” brigade are out in force. "
They only feign interest in LGBT rights if a Muslim commits a hate crime against the LGBT community. Some can not even feign interest in LGBT rights. they themselves can not even consider it as a hate crime against gay people. LGBT are not a demographic that exist. A demographic that can be targeted. It is only an attack on party goers.
The gut reaction to deny it as an attack on the LGBT community, or to deny even the existence of the LGBT as a community at all, less than 24 hours after the attack, is homophobic. Imagine if straight after the Paris attacks we had people saying "Not Parisians killed, humans killed".
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Ad how the left responds
http://thesatedire.com/news/world-news/working-class-media-and-muslims-banned-from-criticising-islam/
Homosexuality is an act of love, stand united. Religion is a set of ideas, some of which are hateful. Stand against ALL FORMS of fascism. This is not left and right. Let the politicians politic, let the right of mind unite.
http://thesatedire.com/news/world-news/working-class-media-and-muslims-banned-from-criticising-islam/
Homosexuality is an act of love, stand united. Religion is a set of ideas, some of which are hateful. Stand against ALL FORMS of fascism. This is not left and right. Let the politicians politic, let the right of mind unite.
It was as much an attack on the LGBT community as it was Islamic terrorism.
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A newspaper with close ties to the Turkish presidents party reported the incident as "50 perverts killed in a bar". Is this the type of right wing nonsense you are talking about ?
Perhaps it is the right wing belief that homosexuals should be prosecuted that so many Muslims hold, is this the type of nonsense you are talking about.
You are criticizing those that are criticizing the 'right wing' theocrats, you are a de facto apologist for the right wing crowd. Do you not see that ?
Perhaps it is the right wing belief that homosexuals should be prosecuted that so many Muslims hold, is this the type of nonsense you are talking about.
You are criticizing those that are criticizing the 'right wing' theocrats, you are a de facto apologist for the right wing crowd. Do you not see that ?
Original post by DiddyDec
Precisely.
Original post by ChaoticButterfly
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/13/sky-news-homophobia-orlando-sexuality
"Today, the “we only care about LGBT rights if Muslims are involved” brigade are out in force. "
They only feign interest in LGBT rights if a Muslim commits a hate crime against the LGBT community. Some can not even feign interest in LGBT rights. they themselves can not even consider it as a hate crime against gay people. LGBT are not a demographic that exist. A demographic that can be targeted. It is only an attack on party goers.
The gut reaction to deny it as an attack on the LGBT community, or to deny even the existence of the LGBT as a community at all, less than 24 hours after the attack, is homophobic. Imagine if straight after the Paris attacks we had people saying "Not Parisians killed, humans killed".
"Today, the “we only care about LGBT rights if Muslims are involved” brigade are out in force. "
They only feign interest in LGBT rights if a Muslim commits a hate crime against the LGBT community. Some can not even feign interest in LGBT rights. they themselves can not even consider it as a hate crime against gay people. LGBT are not a demographic that exist. A demographic that can be targeted. It is only an attack on party goers.
The gut reaction to deny it as an attack on the LGBT community, or to deny even the existence of the LGBT as a community at all, less than 24 hours after the attack, is homophobic. Imagine if straight after the Paris attacks we had people saying "Not Parisians killed, humans killed".
Yes I'm sure the likes of Milo Yiannopolous and Douglas Murray don't give a damn about gay rights.
Original post by KingBradly
Yes I'm sure the likes of Milo Yiannopolous and Douglas Murray don't give a damn about gay rights.
If you don't like people dismissing what you identify as by treating you as a homogeneous group who are responsible for each others actions stop doing it with left wing people.
Milo is just a troll.
Original post by ChaoticButterfly
If you don't like people dismissing what you identify as by treating you as a homogeneous group who are responsible for each others actions stop doing it with left wing people.
Milo is just a troll.
Milo is just a troll.
So what you're doing is OK because you claim that I do it?
Original post by ChaoticButterfly
Imagine if straight after the Paris attacks we had people saying "Not Parisians killed, humans killed".
But it wasn't only Parisians who were killed in that attack - 102 of the 130 were French and the gunman did not target the area because the people were French compared to this situation where the gunman targeted an area specifically because it's a location many members of the LGBT community would be found. This being said, heterosexuals may also be among the victims and this was also definitely an act of Islamic terrorism.
Original post by Armastan
But it wasn't only Parisians who were killed in that attack - 102 of the 130 were French and the gunman did not target the area because the people were French compared to this situation where the gunman targeted an area specifically because it's a location many members of the LGBT community would be found. This being said, heterosexuals may also be among the victims and this was also definitely an act of Islamic terrorism.
Against gay people. Islamic terrorism targeted against gay people.
Original post by KingBradly
So what you're doing is OK because you claim that I do it?
Maybe one of you will learn something from this little life lesson.
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Did anyone see that retard Owen Jones getting arsy because he's gay on Sky News lastnight? Haha.
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Original post by HanSoloLuck
A newspaper with close ties to the Turkish presidents party reported the incident as "50 perverts killed in a bar". Is this the type of right wing nonsense you are talking about ?
Perhaps it is the right wing belief that homosexuals should be prosecuted that so many Muslims hold, is this the type of nonsense you are talking about.
Perhaps it is the right wing belief that homosexuals should be prosecuted that so many Muslims hold, is this the type of nonsense you are talking about.
Yes it is.
There are groups within the western right who detest Muslims but share the same dislike of LGBT people you have just shown is prevalent in Muslims countries like Turkey.
There are of course right wing people in western societies who are socially liberal and do not dislike gay people or harber prejudice against Muslims.
It is almost like the left/right dichotomy is too simplistic isn't it?
The same is true of the western left.
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Original post by ChaoticButterfly
Against gay people.
As I stated when I said "the gunman targeted an area specifically because it's a location many members of the LGBT community would be found." It shouldn't be ignored that it was a homophobic-fuelled attack but it also shouldn't be ignored that it was Islamic terrorrism. No average homophobe would go into a gay bar and kill 50 people.
Original post by ChaoticButterfly
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/13/sky-news-homophobia-orlando-sexuality
"Today, the “we only care about LGBT rights if Muslims are involved” brigade are out in force. "
They only feign interest in LGBT rights if a Muslim commits a hate crime against the LGBT community. Some can not even feign interest in LGBT rights. they themselves can not even consider it as a hate crime against gay people. LGBT are not a demographic that exist. A demographic that can be targeted. It is only an attack on party goers.
The gut reaction to deny it as an attack on the LGBT community, or to deny even the existence of the LGBT as a community at all, less than 24 hours after the attack, is homophobic. Imagine if straight after the Paris attacks we had people saying "Not Parisians killed, humans killed".
"Today, the “we only care about LGBT rights if Muslims are involved” brigade are out in force. "
They only feign interest in LGBT rights if a Muslim commits a hate crime against the LGBT community. Some can not even feign interest in LGBT rights. they themselves can not even consider it as a hate crime against gay people. LGBT are not a demographic that exist. A demographic that can be targeted. It is only an attack on party goers.
The gut reaction to deny it as an attack on the LGBT community, or to deny even the existence of the LGBT as a community at all, less than 24 hours after the attack, is homophobic. Imagine if straight after the Paris attacks we had people saying "Not Parisians killed, humans killed".
100% agree with you.
Original post by SMEGGGY
Did anyone see that retard Owen Jones getting arsy because he's gay on Sky News lastnight? Haha.
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That isn't why he walked off. Actually watch it.
Original post by Jebedee
What? Because we're disinterested in LGBT bloviating about pronouns and bathroom laws but we do care when 50 are slaughtered, that is somehow evidence of a contradiction?
Nice try.
Nice try.
This!
Original post by ivybridge
100% agree with you.
That isn't why he walked off. Actually watch it.
That isn't why he walked off. Actually watch it.
He was. Saying ''I'm gay and you're not'' ********.
Original post by SMEGGGY
He was. Saying ''I'm gay and you're not'' ********.
No, he said the reporter finds it harder to understand the wider impact because he isn't LGBTQIA. that makes perfect sense.
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