Keep EU university students status as home fees.

Original post by Josb

You're smart enough to go to Cambridge, but not smart enough to understand that the UK will not leave the EU before at least two years, and that students cannot change their fee status when they are enrolled in a degree?

No, it is not.

1) I knew that UK will remain in EU for the next 2 years so I'll get my first 2 years but I didn't know that fee status can't change during your course (how am I supposed to know that ? ) . I would not be able to pay my third year , that's what I thought .

2) Well we have the freedom-to-move right but it doesn't really mention if you can live in the 'foreign country' or just travel there .
Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country .
Perhaps I was quiet wrong , but what our teacher told us in school was that we indeed have the right to live wherever we want (perhaps she was wrong as well Idk). Most countries don't really care about human rights so perhaps it's our right but who cares ...

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Original post by Vesniep

Perhaps I was quiet wrong , but what our teacher told us in school was that we indeed have the right to live wherever we want (perhaps she was wrong as well Idk). Most countries don't really care about human rights so perhaps it's our right but who cares ...

If you are an EU citizen that applies, but only within the EU. Or in countries that have done a deal with the EU (eg Norway)

After you have graduated in 3 or 4 years time it's quite possible you will still have a right to remain in the UK. It's also possible you won't.

We don't yet know.

But eitherway a degree from Cambridge will stand you in good stead.

Don't worry overmuch about all this. Everyone is in the same position...

And the main thing, for you, is your tuition fees are not affected.

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chemting

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Original post by Vesniep

but what our teacher told us in school was that we indeed have the right to live wherever we want (perhaps she was wrong as well Idk).

Word of advice: don't listen to what your teachers tell you at skool...

Also, don't worry. For the next three years, as long as everything else is okay of course, you will be studying at Cambridge. However, after that you need to research what you want to do and extensively research all the laws and regulations by yourself and fit your plans around it. I'm not going to say your post graduate life would be simple, but if you're going to Cambridge this year, your undergrad should be fine.

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Adrono

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I'm an EU student. York and Warwick both emailed me right after Brexit to assure me that my fee status wouldn't change for the whole duration of my course if I enrolled for 2016/2017. And they also said I'd still be eligible for student loans, of course.

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Original post by jneill

If you are an EU citizen that applies, but only within the EU. Or in countries that have done a deal with the EU (eg Norway)

After you have graduated in 3 or 4 years time it's quite possible you will still have a right to remain in the UK. It's also possible you won't.

We don't yet know.

But eitherway a degree from Cambridge will stand you in good stead.

Don't worry overmuch about all this. Everyone is in the same position...

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Original post by chemting

Word of advice: don't listen to what your teachers tell you at skool...

Also, don't worry. For the next three years, as long as everything else is okay of course, you will be studying at Cambridge. However, after that you need to research what you want to do and extensively research all the laws and regulations by yourself and fit your plans around it. I'm not going to say your post graduate life would be simple, but if you're going to Cambridge this year, your undergrad should be fine.

Hmm human rights are not legal rights . I mean we all have the theoretical right to life but in Texas they still have the death penalty and it's fine . Perhaps it's in fact our right to live wherever we want , but who cares about it . Human rights are all theoretical , if a state wants to violate some it's fine . I know my legal right to live wherever I want inside the EU and only the EU ,nowhere else in the world.

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Kieran1996

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EU students will be fine

Everything will be fine

Spoiler

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Manchester_123

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Original post by ckfeister

Anyone agree? As they already allowed and planned for it, as it would affect their life in long-term if its places such as Cambridge, which is a TOP university worldwide.

We should raise tuition fees for EU students to international rates as soon as possible. If they want to come here, damn they will pay for it those cheap people

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Original post by Vesniep

Hmm human rights are not legal rights . I mean we all have the theoretical right to life but in Texas they still have the death penalty and it's fine . Perhaps it's in fact our right to live wherever we want , but who cares about it . Human rights are all theoretical , if a state wants to violate some it's fine . I know my legal right to live wherever I want inside the EU and only the EU ,nowhere else in the world.

You don't have a right to reside in Texas or anywhere else outside the EU (as a Greek citizen).

That's what we are talking about when we are referring to a right (or not) to "live" somewhere.

It's nothing to do with a right to "life"...

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ckfeister

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Original post by Manchester_123

We should raise tuition fees for EU students to international rates as soon as possible. If they want to come here, damn they will pay for it those cheap people

Why?

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Original post by jneill

You don't have a right to reside in Texas or anywhere else outside the EU (as a Greek citizen).

That's what we are talking about when we are referring to a right (or not) to "live" somewhere.

It's nothing to do with a right to "life"...

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It was just an example of how human rights are not universal and they are theoretical .
I didn't confuse these two of course .

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Original post by Vesniep

It was just an example of how human rights are not universal and they are theoretical .
I didn't confuse these two of course .

Okay, but then it's not really relevant to your Cambridge opportunity. :smile:

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Original post by jneill

Okay, but then it's not really relevant to your Cambridge opportunity. :smile:

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I know I just use random things to defend my position , lol.
Guys don't take me that seriously I'm just sad .

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Original post by Vesniep

I know I just use random things to defend my position , lol.
Guys don't take me that seriously I'm just sad .

There's no reason to be sad. You are going to Cambridge. Your fee status is unchanged.

Everything is fine.

As someone else said, don't listen to your teachers. They aren't your future; you are.

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limetang

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If I may ask, why is restricting home fees to UK students any worse than just restricting them to EU students? For BOTH situations you are discriminating based upon geography.

But also as others have said there is no reason whatsoever for EU students to be panicking about their fee status, it will remain exactly the same until the UK actually leaves the EU (and even at that point we have absolutely no idea what the UK will look like in relation to the EU).*

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Original post by Manchester_123

We should raise tuition fees for EU students to international rates as soon as possible. If they want to come here, damn they will pay for it those cheap people

Cheap people ? I mean it's ok to accuse our politicians but not the people who live in the EU .
The deal was 9000 pounds/year with student loans as well.
Most of us spent our last 2 years studying for British exams , we could use that time for other exams.
British unis were appealing to most of us for their academic excellence AND cheap fees .
We are not cheap people just because some of us are poor .
Just say : We only want the rich 'foreigners' not those who have the talent/skills to study there .
Also we had lower fees because of the EU funds which end up in our taxes so again thank you for nothing

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Assan

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Original post by Adrono

I'm an EU student. York and Warwick both emailed me right after Brexit to assure me that my fee status wouldn't change for the whole duration of my course if I enrolled for 2016/2017. And they also said I'd still be eligible for student loans, of course.

We firmed and insured the same universities :smile:

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