sandhurst-what are my chances?

Ok, so Im 6 weeks into uni here at Durham, but have decided that I would like to become an officer after uni. Eventually I want to specialise in military intelligence but for now, that's by the by.

Im pretty sure my levels of physical fitness are fine (definately a bit more press up practice needed!), the verbal and numerical tests look challenging but not altogether difficult.

I was really just wondering how many people are chosen from the initial briefing to attend main board, and then at main board, how many people are chosen there? I just don't want to waste my time, and train and stuff and then realise i should have put far far more time into essays etc!

Thank you!

Reply 1

spacepirate-James

18

Lol... if you get scholarship, make sure you don't go on the apprentice :wink:

Reply 2

ProStacker

11

Statistics are meaningless - if YOU are good enough, you'll pass. If you are put off applying because a high percentge of people fail to pass, you are probably not the sort they are looking for.

Reply 3

ChopinNocturne

15

spacepirate-James

Lol... if you get scholarship, make sure you don't go on the apprentice :wink:

I was thinking of that when I read the thread title :lol:

Reply 4

JAgg

Ask this guy;

I think if I'm not mistaken, he had a scholarship to sandhurst. Not sure though, he didn't like to brag about it.

Reply 5

Drewski

19

Go seek out the UOTC if you haven't already. They'll be better placed to prep you to the relevant levels.

Reply 6

armyboy

4

Go and talk to the Army University Careers Liaison Officer. He / she is there to give people like you advice on careers in the Army. Your university careers dept will have the contact details and they are also on the Army recruiting web site somewhere.

If you are a serious candidate he can fix up for you to go on a couple of Army vists to see what it is all about.

If you are interested in joning the Army why didn't you apply to join the OTC. You can still apply to join in second year.

As has been said above, statistics are not really relevant. The people who meet the grade get to go on to main baord at AOSB, and if you are good eneugh you will pass.

Reply 7

muckie

7

tbh, it's not that hard, i didn't go to uni and i've passed aosb, all you need to do is brush up on your phys and problam solving techniques.

Reply 8

ub2008

Agreed with the man above. AOSB is all about being fit and robust, being able to solve problems, voice your opinion and interview reasonably well. Unlike AIB and OASC, you do not need to be a service knowledge nerd. Phys, planning exercise practice and current affairs knowledge is all you need.

Reply 9

muckie

7

ellie_flower

Ok, so Im 6 weeks into uni here at Durham, but have decided that I would like to become an officer after uni. Eventually I want to specialise in military intelligence but for now, that's by the by.

Im pretty sure my levels of physical fitness are fine (definitely a bit more press up practice needed!), the verbal and numerical tests look challenging but not altogether difficult.

I was really just wondering how many people are chosen from the initial briefing to attend main board, and then at main board, how many people are chosen there? I just don't want to waste my time, and train and stuff and then realise i should have put far far more time into essays etc!

Thank you!

you've got to be the dogs ******** to go into military intelligence in the army, out of all the people that apply (and at just my aosb there were about 6) they only choose 3 per commissioning course, which makes it the hardest to get into aout of any of the branches, and from my briefing about 8 people got cat 4, nobody got cat 3, about 20 got cat 2 and the rest (about 10) got cat 1

Reply 10

Spindle

ellie_flower

I was really just wondering how many people are chosen from the initial briefing to attend main board, and then at main board, how many people are chosen there? I just don't want to waste my time, and train and stuff and then realise i should have put far far more time into essays etc!

If that is your outlook, I wouldn't bother applying. Even the selection process is character building, and certainly not a waste of time.

Reply 11

Ruhr_Phantom

1

Spindle

If that is your outlook, I wouldn't bother applying. Even the selection process is character building, and certainly not a waste of time.

I would have to agree with Spindle, I went to OASC (RAF equivalent) in May 2008 and did not pass, however although it was hard to take I learnt a great deal from doing it. I am not afraid to say it probably changed my life in some aspects too, it should make you more determine and to improve yourself for next time. :biggrin:

Reply 12

Lady Venom

14

muckie

you've got to be the dogs ******** to go into military intelligence in the army, out of all the people that apply (and at just my aosb there were about 6) they only choose 3 per commissioning course, which makes it the hardest to get into aout of any of the branches, and from my briefing about 8 people got cat 4, nobody got cat 3, about 20 got cat 2 and the rest (about 10) got cat 1

Wrong. More than 3 per CC go Int.

Reply 13

Lady Venom

14

Spindle

If that is your outlook, I wouldn't bother applying. Even the selection process is character building, and certainly not a waste of time.

Agreed- you need to go in giving 100%, or else you just won't get the outcome you desire.

Reply 14

muckie

7

Lady Venom

Wrong. More than 3 per CC go Int.

i heard it from a girl who was applying for intelligence, but she did get cat 4 so i'm not sure how reliable the information is.

Reply 15

Schleigg

18

RCB (Or whatever they call it these days.. AOSB?) Briefing scores didn't seem to count for much when you went for the real deal. The briefing is just to give you an idea of what you may need to work on to pass the main board.

Bottom Line:

If a cat 2, 3, 4 person goes away and learns: Then they could quite conceivably be as good as a cat 1 person at the main board.

My head hurts

Reply 16

ub2008

People who go to briefing and who get cat 1 often get complacent and want to rush at the main board, getting a cat 2 or a cat 3 isnt the end of the world, and gives a lot of people a kick up the backside. Id bet that quite a few cat 2 and cat 3s outperform cat 1 at main board, like the bloke above said. Cat 4 means that you will not be able to take your application as an officer any further, and I think that these people could be weeded out by the ACAs quite easily. Youd have to be pretty aweful to get a cat 4 at briefing, tbh.
Re the int corps, one of my mates is an army officer, although not in this corps. I doubt the int corps would offer sponsorship to anyone they thought wouldnt fit in, their acquaint visit is one you can only go on once youve passed main board, and they are a very popular, but quite small corps. (They dont need to sponsor more than they need to). If you are suited to being an int corps officer, theyll offer you sponsorship. Dont listen to people saying how tough it is, they probably wish you were in their shoes!
Other arms, such as the RA, sponsor a hell of alot more because they are the largest corps in the army and therefore need sheer numbers.

Reply 17

BlackHawk

17

muckie

i heard it from a girl who was applying for intelligence, but she did get cat 4 so i'm not sure how reliable the information is.

Say that in you post then, rather than passing it off as fact :wink:

Reply 18

ub2008

Ellie flower, Ill just add in something I forgot to in my first post on the thread. Your ACA, although well intentioned, will probably try to steer you away from small sought after corps like int and the AAC (army air corps). This is not due to malice on their part, but just due to the fact that there are WAAY more people interested in these areas in particular than will ever get places. Dont be discouraged by this though!!!!

Reply 19

FranticMind

18

JAgg

Ask this guy;

I think if I'm not mistaken, he had a scholarship to sandhurst. Not sure though, he didn't like to brag about it.

Yeah he did but completing officer training is an entirely new evil. I think he was a tad cocky and would have had the **** kicked out of him constantly.

Ruhr_Phantom

I would have to agree with Spindle, I went to OASC (RAF equivalent) in May 2008 and did not pass, however although it was hard to take I learnt a great deal from doing it. I am not afraid to say it probably changed my life in some aspects too, it should make you more determine and to improve yourself for next time. :biggrin:

OASC is about 100x harder, but MI is probably the hardest army officer branch.

@OP Unless your well born then you like the rest of us have a small chance. Unfortunately all officer training is supposed to be hard neigh on impossible, because how you cope with pressure and how you work under extreme circumstances is incredibly important to them.

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