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Phalanges
I think this was more an anatomical mistake as opposed to any kind of procedural one.


Yet that was the one our anatomy tutors chose to focus on :rolleyes: And they wonder why we don't know any anatomy...
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Phalanges
Bodyworlds? I went to that, it was awesome - they had a giraffe. :cool:

My favourite exhibit was this bizarre construction where (somehow) they had got just all of the blood vessels from a rabbit, but had them in the same position as they would be in a rabbit, it was unbelievably cool.

This is shown in the second episode - "Circulation" at 25 mins.

Apparently, they inject some kind of polymer and then use enzymes to destroy the normal tissues after curing the polymer. Pretty clever.
_lynx_
This is shown in the second episode - "Circulation" at 25 mins.

Apparently, they inject some kind of polymer and then use enzymes to destroy the normal tissues after curing the polymer. Pretty clever.



Am i odd for finding it all really disgusting and making me quesy just thinking about it.

I've never been able to watch one of his episodes all the way through without having to turn it off and head to toilet!!!
_lynx_
This is shown in the second episode - "Circulation" at 25 mins.

Apparently, they inject some kind of polymer and then use enzymes to destroy the normal tissues after curing the polymer. Pretty clever.

I see, thanks. :holmes: I had no idea it would be important enough to be explained in this.

I was thinking that they might use some kind of resin to harden and preserve the vessels before destroying the rest of it. Clever stuff though.

A picture if anyone is interested in what I've been talking about:

Spoiler

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Subcutaneous
Am i odd for finding it all really disgusting and making me quesy just thinking about it.

I've never been able to watch one of his episodes all the way through without having to turn it off and head to toilet!!!

I seem to be able to handle watching it without too much queasiness, but if I were in the position of that German anatomist, I'm not too sure I could handle it!

I suppose they become habituated to it. Having said this, learning about anatomy is one of the things I look forward to.

Phalanges
I see, thanks. :holmes: I had no idea it would be important enough to be explained in this.

I was thinking that they might use some kind of resin to harden and preserve the vessels before destroying the rest of it. Clever stuff though.

A picture if anyone is interested in what I've been talking about:

Spoiler


They were just illustrating the vast structure that the heart must pump blood through. And I'm not sure if the process is as simple as that - the man just explained it very briskly.
There's talk of controversy of this guy around these parts, this is what our own Prof Ellis has to say about it all:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-anatomists/articles/professor-harold-ellis-on-gunter-von-hagens

Interesting points I think, but make of it what you will.
_lynx_
I seem to be able to handle watching it without too much queasiness, but if I were in the position of that German anatomist, I'm not too sure I could handle it!

I suppose they become habituated to it. Having said this, learning about anatomy is one of the things I look forward to.


They were just illustrating the vast structure that the heart must pump blood through. And I'm not sure if the process is as simple as that - the man just explained it very briskly.



What got me about the show was the sound...the sound always gets to me. I may sit down and try and watch an episode (count it as revision for my exam in july) but I fear still 2 years on i'll be reaching for the sick bowl!
Mushi_master
There's talk of controversy of this guy around these parts, this is what our own Prof Ellis has to say about it all:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-anatomists/articles/professor-harold-ellis-on-gunter-von-hagens

Interesting points I think, but make of it what you will.

That seems a bizarre article to me. He acknowledges that he hasn't seen the exhibit personally, but then goes on to talk about it off the back of an edited TV show, which doesn't exactly present him in the most informed opinion. And as for paragraphs like:

And where did all these young, apparently healthy men and women come from? Especially the heavily pregnant girl with her well-developed foetus in-situ? Did they really all consent to being toted around the world to be stared at for 'educational purposes'?


It strikes me as incredibly peculiar that such an obviously clever and important person would be willing to cast doubt and aspersions, and do so in such a confrontational manner, without any clear evidence.
Phalanges
That seems a bizarre article to me. He acknowledges that he hasn't seen the exhibit personally, but then goes on to talk about it off the back of an edited TV show, which doesn't exactly present him in the most informed opinion. And as for paragraphs like:



It strikes me as incredibly peculiar that such an obviously clever and important person would be willing to cast doubt and aspersions, and do so in such a confrontational manner, without any clear evidence.


It's very bizarre I think, perhaps he's just 'old fashioned' in some of his teaching views etc. I do wonder why he'd make such strong statements, perhaps there is more to it than he's mentioned. I should have taken the opportunity to ask him personally in dissection sessions, as he's definitely not afraid to share his opinions!
Mushi_master
It's very bizarre I think, perhaps he's just 'old fashioned' in some of his teaching views etc. I do wonder why he'd make such strong statements, perhaps there is more to it than he's mentioned. I should have taken the opportunity to ask him personally in dissection sessions, as he's definitely not afraid to share his opinions!

I think if there was any more to it than just his suspicions the exhibition would have been shut down pretty quickly by now! :p:
Phalanges
I think if there was any more to it than just his suspicions the exhibition would have been shut down pretty quickly by now! :p:


Most likely, perhaps he just doesn't like the cut of his jib!
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_lynx_
I seem to be able to handle watching it without too much queasiness, but if I were in the position of that German anatomist, I'm not too sure I could handle it!

I suppose they become habituated to it. Having said this, learning about anatomy is one of the things I look forward to.


Learning the anatomy is so interesting, the body is such a fascinating structure. It's not so good though when the specimen is warm. I had to dissect a sheep a few years ago. It had been stored in the freezer and it's limbs were frozen rigid. I was wrong to expect that the inside would be frozen too. The vast amount of sub-cut fat had insulated the abdomen and it was one toastie sheep on the inside. I could smell rotting sheep for days, yuk!

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