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Reply 380
Original post by Joe909
There's no excuse. Anyone who sponges off welfare benefits without a disability, is obviously too unintelligent to get a job or have a **** work ethic. Job Seekers allowance should be halved.


There are less jobs available than there are people on JSA, is that their fault?
Original post by Elissabeth
well, I do, if they are lazy and on them though choice.

But, before we had thé welfare state, few people actualité starved, so we dont need it.


HAHAHAHA WHAT?!!!!!!!

Ignorance is bliss. It's so much easier to call everyone lazy and that no one goes through life with suffering. :h: But this kind of simplified thinking is not good for the mind.
Original post by Elissabeth
well, I do, if they are lazy and on them though choice.

But, before we had thé welfare state, few people actualité starved, so we dont need it.



Original post by Joe909
There's no excuse. Anyone who sponges off welfare benefits without a disability, is obviously too unintelligent to get a job or have a **** work ethic. Job Seekers allowance should be halved.


Where do these retards come from? Like are you actually that stupid? I am struggling to get my head around how someone can have the opinions you two do. You are the worst type of stupid people.
Reply 383
Original post by Left Hand Drive
Where do these retards come from? Like are you actually that stupid? I am struggling to get my head around how someone can have the opinions you two do. You are the worst type of stupid people.


You're no better either. Socialist.
Original post by Iron Lady
You're no better either. Socialist.


What?! Im no better because I know that we need JSA?! Because I know there is more job seekers than jobs?

I am however a socialist!
Original post by Joe909
There's no excuse. Anyone who sponges off welfare benefits without a disability, is obviously too unintelligent to get a job or have a **** work ethic. Job Seekers allowance should be halved.


I assume you've tried living on £53 a week and paid for bills out of that? As for your first comment - there are around 2.5 million unemployed people out there. There's not 2.5 million jobs out there.
Reply 386
Original post by SophiaKeuning
To say 'scrounges' is quite frankly rude. It's none of your business what his mother does and how she feels about raising a child. To be honest, people are so obsessed with work in this county. If you don't work 9-5 you're the son of the devil. Living is reseverded only for the weekend and getting drunk and you should only be a part time parent, what's more important than contributing to society, right? ...


This has got to be the most insulting post I have read on here, you're unbelievably selfish. I suggest you take a long hard look in the mirror and realise that you are no more important than the average taxpayer. In fact, I'd suggest that judging by your attitude, you will need all of the help from the taxpayer you can get.

Whilst I support welfare for genuine claimants, you're quite frankly abusing this; encouraging people to sit back, relax and not work! People are already lazy enough as it is and you say "obsessed with working", as they say, everything is relative. Remind me dear Sophia, who will pay tax to the Treasury to pay for public services if everyone were to follow your attitude? Where will this burden fall? Oh yes, those who earn a significant amount, because we are all so anti-rich! Tax those hard working people! We have got to provide a life for the workshy!

In life, you make individual choices. Whether that is to have a family or a career, but it is not, and I repeat not the job of society to raise children for you. The fact that you begrudge hard working people is alarming. Have fun in life, XXX


You haven't thought this one through, have you love?
Reply 387
There's no excuse. Anyone who sponges off welfare benefits without a disability, is obviously too unintelligent to get a job or have a **** work ethic. Job Seekers allowance should be halved.


Would love to know what you do for a job. I worked full time for ten years before I went to uni, two of those companies were large multi-nationals. Since leaving Uni I have been forced to claim JSA as I cannot get a job even at a supermarket anywhere near where I live. I was recently in the top 5% shortlisted for a prestigious graduate scheme out of the thousands that applied. Does that make me too unintelligent? Does the fact that I worked full time for ten years since school mean I have a poor work ethic?

I would like to think you are a troll, but unfortunately I genuinely think there are plenty of people like you (probably an A-level student) who hold such disgraceful and ignorant opinions.

EDIT; 'Iron Lady' clearly has little knowledge of the benefits system.
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Original post by TheCurlyHairedDude
"Get off benefits, earn some real money"
"Get a real job"
" Lazy people who sponge of the government"

Quite frankly, I'm sick and tired of people making these ridiculous statements about people on the welfare system. Do you think it's as easy as that...?

My mum has to apply for new jobs everyday, and show proof that she's done it, she has to attend pointless meetings, and if she doesn't she loses money....

My mum has had the opportunity to work several time but it doesn't make sense!

2 kids, one of which is 13 and needs full-time support, can we agree that a 13 year old needs a mum there before she goes to school and when she comes back....? Yes we can.....

Put it this way....



Amount of money gained from welfare system = 100 pound per week
Working full-time 35 hours p/w, spending no time with their kids, not being able to feed one of them, and damaging your health for **** pay... = £80...

If she went to work she'd earn less and sacrifice one of her children, I don't think so...

Yes, fair enough if you're a single person/mum/dad or whatever, but don't generalize everyone on the system....

EDIT - Those figures used aren't real, in other words I'm saying she'd earn less working whilst making stupid compromises..


Is the 13 year old disabled? Why does she need full-time support?
Reply 389
Original post by Left Hand Drive
I am however a socialist!


Why's that?
Original post by AnonymousPenguin
Is the 13 year old disabled? Why does she need full-time support?


No she's fine, and she doesn't NEED full-time support. What about the up-keep of the house while she's working, feeding her ect, don't tell me you was cooking dinners for yourself at 13.. coz you weren't.
Original post by TheCurlyHairedDude
No she's fine, and she doesn't NEED full-time support. What about the up-keep of the house while she's working, feeding her ect, don't tell me you was cooking dinners for yourself at 13.. coz you weren't.


I had to sort out my lunch and dinner was at 7pm or so when my parents got back from work. The up-keep of the house? Seriously? That's what a few hours on the weekend was for. I do sincerely believe that this is pretty much how most families live.
Original post by TheCurlyHairedDude
No she's fine, and she doesn't NEED full-time support. What about the up-keep of the house while she's working, feeding her ect, don't tell me you was cooking dinners for yourself at 13.. coz you weren't.


Er, days off?:rolleyes: Why can't the parent cook stuff at the weekend? Having something like pasta isn't that hard to make.
Original post by INTJ
Are you referring to the UK at all? Somebody who's poor and on benefits would still be treated on the NHS...


someone who wants to do away with welfare probably also wants to do away with the NHS...same kind of heartless arrogant attitude...
Original post by TheCurlyHairedDude
No she's fine, and she doesn't NEED full-time support. What about the up-keep of the house while she's working, feeding her ect, don't tell me you was cooking dinners for yourself at 13.. coz you weren't.


I grew up in a single parent household. My mum left for work before I had to go to school and got back at ~6.30pm most days from when I was 13 onwards. Hasn't done me any harm. If your mum got a job I'm sure you could pick up some of the slack around the house.

That said, I agree that a lot of people have a ridiculously cruel attitude towards people on benefits.
Reply 395
Original post by Dalek1099
She went on a computer course and learnt a few things but can't really get a grasp of using a computer neither can my gran,father or stepmother so she's not alone in the family.


:lolwut: Even children can use a computer!

You're clearly lying.
Reply 396
Just thought I'd add this, my mum is disabled, in a wheelchair and constantly in pain, doesn't stop her working a 60 hour week.

If you put in the time and effort to work, instead of whining, you can.
Original post by Dalek1099
She went on a computer course and learnt a few things but can't really get a grasp of using a computer neither can my gran,father or stepmother so she's not alone in the family.


There are courses she can go on.

My parents worked full-time when I was 13 (mum worked part-time up until I was 11 / 12) and we sometimes had to feed ourselves. Not done us any harm. Is there anything really wrong with learning to fend for yourself? Then you won't be in the situation of leaving home and not having a clue what to do.
Original post by OU Student
There are courses she can go on.

My parents worked full-time when I was 13 (mum worked part-time up until I was 11 / 12) and we sometimes had to feed ourselves. Not done us any harm. Is there anything really wrong with learning to fend for yourself? Then you won't be in the situation of leaving home and not having a clue what to do.


she went on a computer course and couldn't work out how to work them.
Original post by Joe909
There's no excuse. Anyone who sponges off welfare benefits without a disability, is obviously too unintelligent to get a job or have a **** work ethic. Job Seekers allowance should be halved.


Well done for ignoring reality.
If there are less jobs available than there are people trying to get those jobs, then there will be people who cannot get a job. Not because they are lazy, or not intelligent, or have a **** work ethic. But because THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH JOBS.

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