Is it fair?

you could use it

im not at all against international students in general, I just meant in the current economic climate, problems with fewer places for home students at university and high unemployment rate. Sorry if you were offended.

Cheap shot. How well do you communicate in your second language? It may be that you are very fluent and indistinguishable from a native speaker but is it really fair to try to score grammar points this way?



In the current economic climate we need international students even more, they bring a huge amount of money into the education system. Our universities probably couldn't function at the current level without them. Less int. students would quite likely mean less places for home students.

That may not be a bad thing though, there are far too many people at university who are ill equipped and who should probably be pursuing vocational courses. The idea that it's 'university or fail' has caused huge problems for many people. You only have to look at the drop out rate for some of the 'easy access' universities to understand my point.

Are people with top grades really struggling to get in to uni? surely its the candidate's fault for not having a backup plan and putting some less prestigious unis down on their application.

...i don't think that made any sense.

yet twenty five odd years ago when university was free and purely government funded, comparatively few internationals were enrolled?

no its not fair at all. Like you say, thousands of British students every year- many with very high grades dont get accepted into University here, yet Internationals are allowed in, mostly due to the fact they are paying higher in fees :/

Highly agree that its unfair on British workers being out of jobs as well, whilst many internationals are filling our vacancies.

This isnt anything to do with colour or religion, but when is Britain going to put British people first? (and before i get accused of racism, a lot of British people are black, white, muslim etc and so this is NOT to do wit race or religion).

Are people with top grades really struggling to get in to uni? surely its the candidate's fault for not having a backup plan and putting some less prestigious unis down on their application.

...i don't think that made any sense.

But although place allocation is clearly assigned between the groups of home students and international students, the number of places on courses and places in class/lecture sizes remains the same. If you had 200 seats in a lecture theatre, you couldnt fill it up with home students and then tack a little wooden shed on the side for international student who were in "separate spaces". If there are 200 seats, that must include both groups, where there could be X more spaces for the X number of home students who might not have got in based on current international educational law.

I know the benefits that international students bring to the country, and I am in no way against the theory of reaching out to other nations to provide education, but in THE CURRENT CLIMATE time period, i think it is imperative that the government ensure progress and achievement to home students BEFORE encompassing international students into the higher education agenda.