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What Do You Think Of Shop Assistants Who Short-Change Customers?

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Reply 20
It happens, but it can be done accidentally as well as intentionally. i've had it happen to me and it was obviously a mistake (luckily i checked my change and informed them of their mistake), but it has happened to a family member and they said that when they thought about the way the assistant behaved they were almost certainly behaving dishonestly.
Reply 21
as well as the wrong amount of change you need to check that they give you British currency... I received 2 euros once instead of £2...
also Gibraltar £1 and channel island
coins look similar to British coins but are not legal tender
Reply 22
It depends on how much they've short changed me.

I once returned something to a shop and they short changed me by £10, I only realised once I'd left the shop and went back to speak to the person, who said that because I'd signed the receipt they couldn't do anything, I made a bit of a fuss and they eventually said if I left my details with them they'd get back to me once they'd counted the tills that evening. The next morning I got a phone call from the manager saying that I could come collect my money :smile:. I always make sure to check my change now!
Reply 23
Original post by the bear
as well as the wrong amount of change you need to check that they give you British currency... I received 2 euros once instead of £2...
also Gibraltar £1 and channel island
coins look similar to British coins but are not legal tender


Went into a shop with foreign currency a few times in my youth, aaand an M&D's token for a rollercoaster and walked away with a pack of bakky n skins. lol

I used to be such a dick.
(edited 12 years ago)
Reply 24
Original post by Shan<3

Original post by Shan<3
It's happened to me in a taxi before. I was with a friend, and I owed him a fiver. I'd just taken out two 10's from a cash point so that was all I had on me. When we got out the taxi the fare was only about 3 quid, so I handed him a tenner. At this point the taxi man is holding a fiver and the rest of my change, and my friend assumed that was what I had given him, and goes 'so you did have a fiver!'. The taxi man gave me back my 2 quid, and when I disputed it just said that i'd given him a fiver and got quite nasty, and I didn't really want to argue it whilst I was in his car :s-smilie: so I just had to get out. Tbh if he needs 5 quid that much that he needs to stoop to those levels then he can have it!
Taxi drivers are the worst at this. Especially if it's late and they think you might be drunk, they're going to take as much advantage as possible.
Reply 25
Original post by Jackso
Taxi drivers are the worst at this. Especially if it's late and they think you might be drunk, they're going to take as much advantage as possible.


Thats the thing, we'd both had a drink (only one though) and as i'm a trusting person I was doubting myself thinking i'd made the mistake. It wasn't even late though, probably about half 8. So annoying!
Reply 26
I think unintentional mistake or not, the good thing to take out of this is that because it has happened to you, now whenever you get your change back again, you'll stop and look at it. Usually when I get my change, I don't stand there at the till to count it as that might be rude. Usually I'll keep the change in my hand (not like shove it in a pocket hastily or anything) and take my item(s). Then I walk off the the side a tiny bit, place my bags down, and then get out my wallet and count the money before putting it back in my wallet.
Reply 27
once got accidentally given a £5 note extra...so I can't complain.
Reply 28
There would be no point doing it intentionally, where I work you get warnings if you shortchange people, and eventually fired if it happens too often. If it's a shop assistant working in a chain store.... They wont benefit from shortchanging you.

And think about it, mistakes happen. Especially when you have to work 9 hour shifts during the run up to christmas, where its really busy and you are trying to be quick.

For example, I sometimes nearly shortchange people when I pick up a 50p quickly or something and it falls in the till again as i turn round, it's pretty easy to do. There have also been instances when the person on the till before my has put a £10 note in a slot where the £20 notes should, so yeah, it's not always the cashiers fault i guess
I think they're so so sexy ...
Reply 30
Original post by problemsolver
I didn't glare at her or anything. I only found out I'd been short changed when I got home from the shops, after shop closing time, so I couldn't have glared. If I had noticed I'd been given the wrong change at the time, I'd have brought it up as nicely as I could have.

I'm fine with her if it was an honest mistake. It's a bit annoying losing five pounds, but if she didn't mean it I don't resent her.


Fair Enough..

Its just that i've short changed people *accidently* and sometimes people can be really unreasonable and have no symathy for the fact that it was an accident.
Original post by IB_19
I like to think that I would notice if a shop assistant has not given me the correct amount, though often if there's a queue behind me and I do not want to feel rude by counting it. I glance at the amount as it comes out of the till and if I know that they've not given me enough, I will bring it up. Occassionally the shop assistant may do it intentionally, other times they may not be very bright or panick easily.


It's easily done. When it happens to me, I politely point out the mistake, and they apologise and get the correct money out of the till. I don't bother if it's less than £1, especially if it's a lot of small change.


Original post by Alex J
I volunteer in a charity shop and I often work at the till, so I have some empathy for the shop assistants. You need to understand that if they did indeed make a mistake it can actually be very embarrasing for the shop assistant, so giving a judgemental glare back at them isn't going to help things. In fact that will make them even more embarrased and it will effect their confidence - in turn leading to the making of more mistakes. Furthermore it is important one understands that they could have just started, in which case they would be struggling to remember all the things they have to do on the till. However having said that I do aknowledge that short-changing with intent, whereby they would be stealing, is wrong, and you have every right to give them a hard time for that.


I volunteered in a charity shop for 3 years, so I know exactly how you feel. Also, the girl who I worked with had learning disabilities, and so it was also my job to supervise her on the till etc. (To explain how hard she found things: about 6 months after I started, she was really proud of herself for working out that 2 50p coins made a pound.)
One time, we were adding a woman's items on the till. (No scanners etc, we had to type it in manually, and we only had the one till.) One of her items, some large kids toy for about £15ish, it happened that we accidentally put in twice. (I was supervising the other girl on the till at this point - the one with learning disabilities.) Now, trust me when I say that we would immediately have noticed the mistake when we totalled the cost of all her purchases. However, the woman spotted it a second before us, and immediately accused us of trying to con her out of her money, which of course was not our plan. We apologised and corrected it; we actually apologised continually, and tried to explain that it was an honest mistake. The woman was having none of it, and kept ranting about how we'd tried to charge her twice and con her. :s-smilie:
For one thing, we tried to avoid mistakes whenever possible, because:
we only had one till in the shop, and it was an old one that you had to type it into (we didn't have scanners or anything). If you made a mistake, you had to ring the whole thing through the till, then put the receipts to one side and start again. Then at the end of the day, because only the manager could detract things from the till, we had to show her the receipts from any mistakes we'd made, fill out a form to show why we were detracting from the day's total, and she would have to type the code into the till to take the balance off of the total.
Because the till was so old, it was the manager who had to check the final (long) till receipt at the end of the day for discrepancies.
So, considering we had to stay behind at the end of the day to correct any mistakes we'd made, if people knew the whole process we had to go through, they might not think that we made mistakes for the fun of it.



Original post by Cicerao
It's an accident. The tills get counted, so either money would be missing and in their pocket (they'd get in trouble) or there would be extra money unaccounted for in the till (they'd get in trouble.)

Everyone in the country should be made to work a week in retail, because once you're on the worker side of the counter you realise what unreasonable dicks some customers are.


Exactly.
Some people didn't seem to get that we were volunteers, learning on the job. Also, there were often only 2 of us, or even just me on my own, on the shop floor. (The manager was usually downstairs sorting and pricing donations; later on, when our shop was taken over by the manager of the other charity shop down the road, I was often completely alone, as she was in the other shop.) Some people didn't seem to appreciate that I'm only one person; if the phone is ringing, there's a customer about to pay for something, another customer wanting to see something from the display cupboard, another wanting the clothes off the mannequin in the window, someone else wanting something that was reserved for them which we kept out the back in the staff area, and another person walking through the door with a bag of donated items, someone was going to have to wait! :redface:


Original post by yb93
There would be no point doing it intentionally, where I work you get warnings if you shortchange people, and eventually fired if it happens too often. If it's a shop assistant working in a chain store.... They wont benefit from shortchanging you.

And think about it, mistakes happen. Especially when you have to work 9 hour shifts during the run up to christmas, where its really busy and you are trying to be quick.



Exactly.


Original post by Alex J
Fair Enough..

Its just that i've short changed people *accidently* and sometimes people can be really unreasonable and have no sympathy for the fact that it was an accident.


I totally understand this one. Having worked in retail, I'm now careful to be polite to staff, because I know how easy it is to make a mistake. I hated customers who gave me such a hard time over tiny errors, and so I try not to be that sort of customer.
A few months ago, for example, I went to by some shoes. At the shop, I was persuaded to buy some shoe polish to go with them, which cost £3. I handed over the money, £60 in £20 notes. (Total cost was £53.) The girl on the till forgot to give me my change, so I smiled and gently told her that I was due £7 change. No problem - she apologised, opened the till and gave it to me. All sorted. :smile:
Reply 32
Original post by IB_19
I like to think that I would notice if a shop assistant has not given me the correct amount, though often if there's a queue behind me and I do not want to feel rude by counting it. I glance at the amount as it comes out of the till and if I know that they've not given me enough, I will bring it up. Occassionally the shop assistant may do it intentionally, other times they may not be very bright or panick easily.


Using a till is often not easy. Particularly if there is a large queue of customers in which case the shop assistant will have to go as fast as they can (and hence make more mistakes). Also if someone has just started they will still be learning how to operate the till. There are also some older tills that can be a lot more complex than "scan, money, next customer please".
Derp. Just go back the shop and demand your correct change. They will almost always give it to you in the name of customer service - even if they think you are in the wrong. Regards them doing it on purpose, why would they? If they pocket the change for themselves, they are theiving from the shop, and they can lose their job. If they put it in the till, the shop just earns more, not the assistant. So it makes no sense.
99% of the time its just a mistake.

In the back of their mind, they're remembering they need to restock that display as soon as they get an opportunity, and the till roll is running out, they've got a whole script of taught lines to say to the customer, and pack their shopping for them too, and remember to give out some stupid promotional vouchers that the shop is running this week. And then on top of that quickly do mental arithmetic and give correct change, taking into account they're running out of 50p coins so they're trying to use 10s/20s until a supervisor comes with a change bag, and they have to do a cash drop in the next 10 minutes too.

It's quite understandable that they might give the wrong change occasionally.
Reply 35
Original post by screenager2004
99% of the time its just a mistake.

In the back of their mind, they're remembering they need to restock that display as soon as they get an opportunity, and the till roll is running out, they've got a whole script of taught lines to say to the customer, and pack their shopping for them too, and remember to give out some stupid promotional vouchers that the shop is running this week. And then on top of that quickly do mental arithmetic and give correct change, taking into account they're running out of 50p coins so they're trying to use 10s/20s until a supervisor comes with a change bag, and they have to do a cash drop in the next 10 minutes too.

It's quite understandable that they might give the wrong change occasionally.


very true
Reply 36
Original post by screenager2004
99% of the time its just a mistake.

In the back of their mind, they're remembering they need to restock that display as soon as they get an opportunity, and the till roll is running out, they've got a whole script of taught lines to say to the customer, and pack their shopping for them too, and remember to give out some stupid promotional vouchers that the shop is running this week. And then on top of that quickly do mental arithmetic and give correct change, taking into account they're running out of 50p coins so they're trying to use 10s/20s until a supervisor comes with a change bag, and they have to do a cash drop in the next 10 minutes too.

It's quite understandable that they might give the wrong change occasionally.


Disagree; the till does the arithmetic for them, of course some genuine mistakes will occur, but in certain industires like pubs a drunk customer buying a pint with a 20 note is perhaps too tempting to give change from a tenner for the staff on minimum wage or thereabouts.
Original post by Fusion
Disagree; the till does the arithmetic for them, of course some genuine mistakes will occur, but in certain industires like pubs a drunk customer buying a pint with a 20 note is perhaps too tempting to give change from a tenner for the staff on minimum wage or thereabouts.


Not all tills do it for you. And if the cashier gives the customer only a tenner in change then there will be a difference in the stock and the money in the till, they will be found out and fired, it's too big a risk, its way to easy to catch someone intentionally giving the wrong change.

At my old job you had to count ALL the stock every single evening and compare it to how much money we made, and if even a single penny was missing it would be investigated.
Reply 38
Original post by screenager2004
Not all tills do it for you. And if the cashier gives the customer only a tenner in change then there will be a difference in the stock and the money in the till, they will be found out and fired, it's too big a risk, its way to easy to catch someone intentionally giving the wrong change.

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Drunken customer orders a pint at £3 and hands over £20
Bar worker gives £7 change, drunken customer is oblvious to the deception, and so the bar worker pockets £10.

Remember the pub trade is struggling at the moment outside of the national chains (which enfore strict rules)

I've heard this a lot over the years.
(edited 12 years ago)
Reply 39
Original post by problemsolver
What do you think of shop assistants short-changing customers?

This happened to me a while back, with £5. I only noticed when I got home. It could have been an honest mistake, which I wouldn't mind, but she gave me a few vouchers with my change, and I wonder if that was a deliberate distraction.

This has actually really bothered me. It's not just the money, it's the fact that you feel like a ****ing idiot afterwards. I quite like to chill out when I'm doing day-to-day stuff. I don't see why I should always have to be a paranoid wreck on guard for short-changers. It makes me wonder why she did it too (obviously £5 is about an hour's wage for her so that's one obvious motivation). I live in my hometown and it's reasonably big, but it makes me wonder if she somehow knows me and is now mocking me with other people who know me over "outsmarting me".

I reckon that plenty of clever people could get short-changed if they weren't paying much attention.

I doubt it takes that much brilliance to short-change people. Just do "the distract people with crappy vouchers then give them the wrong change" routine over and over until somebody doesn't notice or is too embarrassed to ask for the right change back. If you socialise a lot so have practised to get reasonable social skills, and aren't a complete plank, you'll be able to pull it off.

What can you do about short-changers? If the shop is part of a big chain, can you complain to the branch through email and get them to take a closer look at their workers? Could you get into trouble for this?

Also feel free to discuss shop-lifters if you have any opinions on them.


I think they should exercise because that would made them feel better! :colondollar:

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