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Original post by Captain Crash
In other news, England are now number 3 in ODI, 2 points behind the top spot and ahead of India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka
Not that anyone in England should actually care.
In other news, England are now number 3 in ODI, 2 points behind the top spot and ahead of India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka
Not that anyone in England should actually care.
You don't know the shame that I feel in our team having contributed to this.
Original post by robotpenguin
Can you name a specialist ODI or specialist Test wicket-keeper?
Matt Prior
I think the point CC is making is that in Test Cricket every spot is a speciality spot. You need to have experience and you need to be really good at your role. AB doesn't have the experience and over five days he is untested in that role.
The Surrey v Glamorgan CB40 match on 21 August is to be a tribute to the late Tom Maynard. Hope as many people as possible can be there.
Original post by Vazzyb
Matt Prior
I think the point CC is making is that in Test Cricket every spot is a speciality spot. You need to have experience and you need to be really good at your role. AB doesn't have the experience and over five days he is untested in that role.
I think the point CC is making is that in Test Cricket every spot is a speciality spot. You need to have experience and you need to be really good at your role. AB doesn't have the experience and over five days he is untested in that role.
I see your point but I think AB deserves a chance if he wants to. He clearly has enough ability as we see in the field. I really think it will give SA and advantage because they could add another all rounder or batsmen to the side.
Original post by Captain Crash
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In other news, England are now number 3 in ODI, 2 points behind the top spot and ahead of India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka
Not that anyone in England should actually care.
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In other news, England are now number 3 in ODI, 2 points behind the top spot and ahead of India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka
Not that anyone in England should actually care.
I'm not sure how long that will last with England set to play South Africa and then tour home specialists India. I'm sure by the end of the year, they will be back down to 4 or 5
Sri Lanka's approach is really pissing me off!! They should play to win, they had a good chance as well.
They bat deep, so they could have simply went to the defensive mode, if they had lost wickets attacking.
They bat deep, so they could have simply went to the defensive mode, if they had lost wickets attacking.
Original post by robotpenguin
I see your point but I think AB deserves a chance if he wants to. He clearly has enough ability as we see in the field. I really think it will give SA and advantage because they could add another all rounder or batsmen to the side.
Batsmen bat better if they don't have to crouch behind the wickets for up to 2 days at a time. This is why Sangakarra and McCullum gave up their test gloves. Don't waste the best batting talent SA have on wicket keeping.
id just like to point out that when England went to Sri Lanka, they came back with a draw (...and Pakistan, who have just been lost the series 1-0; and it really should have been 2-0 today).
Original post by Captain Crash
Batsmen bat better if they don't have to crouch behind the wickets for up to 2 days at a time. This is why Sangakarra and McCullum gave up their test gloves. Don't waste the best batting talent SA have on wicket keeping.
I agree with you, although I have always been a great admirer of Hashim Amla. He plays with such fluency and consistency that he is difficult to dislike. He can play all forms of the game, and it is a shame he didn't become a regular earlier in his career as he could've been so much better.
Original post by Vazzyb
id just like to point out that when England went to Sri Lanka, they came back with a draw (...and Pakistan, who have just been lost the series 1-0; and it really should have been 2-0 today).
True, but Pakistan had loads of bad decisions go their way too
Original post by Vazzyb
id just like to point out that when England went to Sri Lanka, they came back with a draw (...and Pakistan, who have just been lost the series 1-0; and it really should have been 2-0 today).
'it really should have been 2-0 today'
a) Literally 10 plumb, no-doubt decisions went against us in the first test match.
b) We would have won the second test if not for rain
c) We may have won this test as well, considering Shafiq, Misbah and Adnan could and would all have score more if not for the time constraints worsened by the rain
d) We also lost out to 4/5 plumb decisions in this match.
If you want to question these 14/15 decisions that I mention, well a quick read through the Cricinfo commentary should do justice, otherwise you can go look up the highlights.
Yea I agree bad decisions definitely, but England aren't as crap as everyone thinks in the sub continent, that's all I meant.
Original post by Vazzyb
Yea I agree bad decisions definitely, but England aren't as crap as everyone thinks in the sub continent, that's all I meant.
Do you think they will beat India in India, later this year?
Original post by shyamshah
Do you think they will beat India in India, later this year?
It is a possibility I think. This is one of the weakest Indian sides for a while. India are thought to be unbeatable at home, why? Because they have very solid batting and are backed up by at least one good pace bowler and one good spinner. This time around, the batting is weaker, the pace bowler is out of form and the spinner...the spinners are terrible. If England was to win, it wouldn't be the same kind of team Australia beat in 2004.
Great Dale Steyn interview ahead of England vs. South Africa
Who do people think will win?
Who do people think will win?
Original post by Vazzyb
id just like to point out that when England went to Sri Lanka, they came back with a draw (...and Pakistan, who have just been lost the series 1-0; and it really should have been 2-0 today).
I'd just like to point out that the umpiring was unforgivable and so was the weather. Thanks
Original post by Vazzyb
It is a possibility I think. This is one of the weakest Indian sides for a while. India are thought to be unbeatable at home, why? Because they have very solid batting and are backed up by at least one good pace bowler and one good spinner. This time around, the batting is weaker, the pace bowler is out of form and the spinner...the spinners are terrible. If England was to win, it wouldn't be the same kind of team Australia beat in 2004.
I still find a batting line up of Sehwag, Gambhir, Kohli, Tendulkar and Laxman to be pretty formidable. In the subcontinent, they are among the best players around. Ishant Sharma showed promise in England and shows he can lead an attack. Umesh Yadav looks to be a good find with genuine pace. Admittedly Ashwin and Ojha don't pose the most threatening spin attack, but they showed they can takr wickets against West Indies last year. They got a combined 42 wickets in three tests which is quite impressive. Obviously, West Indies did not have the strongest batting line up, but they had Chanderpaul. Against an England team who seem to struggle in the subcontinent, they will important as long as they are allowed to bowl to take wickets and not bowl economically.
Original post by robotpenguin
I still find a batting line up of Sehwag, Gambhir, Kohli, Tendulkar and Laxman to be pretty formidable. In the subcontinent, they are among the best players around. Ishant Sharma showed promise in England and shows he can lead an attack. Umesh Yadav looks to be a good find with genuine pace. Admittedly Ashwin and Ojha don't pose the most threatening spin attack, but they showed they can takr wickets against West Indies last year. They got a combined 42 wickets in three tests which is quite impressive. Obviously, West Indies did not have the strongest batting line up, but they had Chanderpaul. Against an England team who seem to struggle in the subcontinent, they will important as long as they are allowed to bowl to take wickets and not bowl economically.
I agree with pretty much everything you said but Zaheer Khan will probably play instead of Ishant or Yadav. Hopefully Kohli bats at 3 but even if he is at 6 we still have Pujara at 3 so our batting line up is still really good.
Original post by Vazzyb
It is a possibility I think. This is one of the weakest Indian sides for a while. India are thought to be unbeatable at home, why? Because they have very solid batting and are backed up by at least one good pace bowler and one good spinner. This time around, the batting is weaker, the pace bowler is out of form and the spinner...the spinners are terrible. If England was to win, it wouldn't be the same kind of team Australia beat in 2004.
Which pace bowler is out of form? And like 'Robotpenguin' said our batting line up obviously is weaker without Rahul Dravid but it is still a good line up especially in India.
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Original post by DH1'
The first test is crucial. If South Africa can survive, and not lose, then they have a decent chance to win the series.
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