The English Literature (LITB3 - 20/06/12) Thread

Thanks! have repped you I've never really understood the difference between 'form' and structure, too vague. How does the abcabc rhyme scheme link to the pastoral? It it just to do with music/ballad (although i though ballad was abcb) or is it something more specific?
is language in AO2 literally just the words used and their connotations etc or would references to rhyme, alliteration, meter used etc come under lang?

Sorry for all the questions, we were taught so badly because my English teacher was off sick half the year and my school is so disorganised it was never sorted

We were just told that was a traditional pastoral rhyme scheme, so I guess that just means it was a common form for pastoral poetry. In English I do sometimes just end up regurgitating information from the teacher without really understanding it - not good I know! But I have no idea to be honest about whether it's linked to mussic, sorry.

I get confused between form and structure too, even my teacher said she didn't know what would come under form and what would be structure. I don't think I can really help with which bits would be language as I just get too confused myself, so hopefully somebody else can clarify it

Have you chosen particular poems to revise? I'm hoping to do As You Like It in section A too.

I know this is a stupid question but do you have to quote from the text?
My teacher told us you dont have to, all you need to do is remember what happens in each books but he cant be trusted.

If quotes are necessary, which ones do you try and remember?

They might be more leniant because it's a closed book exam but I wouldn't bank on it. I'd have thought that language analysis for AO2 would be quite hard without backing it up with language quotes even if it's just a word or two.

Try to remember quotes to show off a bit and the ones that are most relevant to the gothic elements in your set text would be most useful I'd say because then you can mould them to any question really. But don't remember quotes for the sake of trying to get them into your question

Great, Im about to fail lol
Thanks for the help though, much appreciated

Awww no don't say that! I mean quotes are great but they are probably not absolutely necessary. I just personally don't really see how I can analyse language without showing the examiners what the language used IS.

However, if you can remember parts of the novel in depth and say things like 'the language used in the end of the novel in particular is...' and so on then I'm pretty sure that counts And if you know the events well and can see how they fit into the novel as whole, that's AO2 too for structure.

Besides, I'm sure you remember a lot more quotes than you give yourself credit for, you just might not realise but you probably retain a lot by reading the texts over and over. Also, three days is deffo not too late to start. Just have around 5 general gothicky quotes for each text maybe?

i would go down of writing of the excess an maybe relaite to setting how it over the top and drmaaric with thunderstroms adn castles and the maybe look at how this can relate to differnt aspect of gothic for various books in the bloody chamber i ould do lady in the hous of love adn the writing of excess and how it sweeps the reaer away and frankenstein and the language in realtion to chapter when monster is created
deamoical corpse
dead rotting body parts
livid with the hue fo death

I need serious help on the gothic elements in white devil, as I don't even know what I'm looking for some help please.

hello everyone,

i'm studying bloody chamber, white devil and wuthering heights and just wondered what people are getting for supernatural stuff in the bloody chamber. Just struggling a bit on that front.



have you got like the obvious bloody murders that lodovico says he will commit, the ungodly nature of flamineo, the yew tree as a deathly symbol.

hello everyone,

i'm studying bloody chamber, white devil and wuthering heights and just wondered what people are getting for supernatural stuff in the bloody chamber. Just struggling a bit on that front.

I wouldn't say there is the prescence of the supernatural that much in the title story. But in the rest of the tales there is a lot. In the Tiger's Bride you obviously have the Beast who is anthropomorphic, the transformation of the narrator at the end, the enchanted clockwork servant and the way the Beast's tears turn to jewels. In the Snow Child you have the "snow child" who is created by the Count and who melts after he rapes her body, then there is the whole Vampire thing in Lady In The House of Love and the men who transform into wolves in "Company of Wolves"

cheers for that

i'm doing snow child, the bloody chamber, werewolf when i write about it and possibly company of wolves. So your comments helped thanks

The sin on pride is an awful question!!!!!!
I would prefer Supernatural on its own instead of occult elements. There is much more to write about??

I know lots on the morality plays, so no problem there.

What do you think feel are the significances of The Old Man/ Good Angel?? You could argue that the old man is jesus LOL!

God I need serious help!

hello everyone,

i'm studying bloody chamber, white devil and wuthering heights and just wondered what people are getting for supernatural stuff in the bloody chamber. Just struggling a bit on that front.



have you got like the obvious bloody murders that lodovico says he will commit, the ungodly nature of flamineo, the yew tree as a deathly symbol.