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What's the attraction to law?
Why on earth is law so damn popular? Seriously, I mean it's boring as hell and is pretty damn hard to get in to.
I know it's a bit of a death wish posting this on the law section, but I mean, I just can't understand the sheer numbers. If money's all you're bothered about, why not just work in the city with some IB or something...
So what made/makes you wanna take law?
I know it's a bit of a death wish posting this on the law section, but I mean, I just can't understand the sheer numbers. If money's all you're bothered about, why not just work in the city with some IB or something...
So what made/makes you wanna take law?
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- the moment you're admitted as an Honourable Solicitor of the Supreme Court of England and Wales.
- being part of the most highly regarded legal system in the world, bar none.
- being stimulated by a job where money is not the only motivating factor.
- the chance to use, manipulate, stretch, interpret, construe and generally play around with the English language.
- grappling with a subject which has an impact on absolutely every facet of our lives from your rights as an unborn child, the way in which your teachers must interract with you at school, your rights not to be discriminated against through colour, creed, gender or religion, your rights to purchase/own/sell property, the meeting of business and economics in the commercial world, freedoms of speech and privacy all the way through to your rights to euthanasia and distribution of your property on death.
- status and respect from yyour peers.
- being part of deals and litigation which make headline news.
- wearing a bespoke suit.
- appearing before a High Court judge in the Royal Courts of Justice knowing that lawyers have been doing the same in exactly the same spot for 150 years (possibly before the same judge...).
- helping clients solve their problems or achieve their goals.
- wigs.
With the greatest of respect, you can stick your investment banking.
- being part of the most highly regarded legal system in the world, bar none.
- being stimulated by a job where money is not the only motivating factor.
- the chance to use, manipulate, stretch, interpret, construe and generally play around with the English language.
- grappling with a subject which has an impact on absolutely every facet of our lives from your rights as an unborn child, the way in which your teachers must interract with you at school, your rights not to be discriminated against through colour, creed, gender or religion, your rights to purchase/own/sell property, the meeting of business and economics in the commercial world, freedoms of speech and privacy all the way through to your rights to euthanasia and distribution of your property on death.
- status and respect from yyour peers.
- being part of deals and litigation which make headline news.
- wearing a bespoke suit.
- appearing before a High Court judge in the Royal Courts of Justice knowing that lawyers have been doing the same in exactly the same spot for 150 years (possibly before the same judge...).
- helping clients solve their problems or achieve their goals.
- wigs.
With the greatest of respect, you can stick your investment banking.
well said...
It's not the money which attracts me at all, but rather the nature of the law. I want to become a barrister so I love the idea of arguing a case, standing up in court, the thrill and adrenalin and the theatricality of the whole thing.
It's not the money which attracts me at all, but rather the nature of the law. I want to become a barrister so I love the idea of arguing a case, standing up in court, the thrill and adrenalin and the theatricality of the whole thing.
chalks
- the moment you're admitted as an Honourable Solicitor of the Supreme Court of England and Wales.
- being part of the most highly regarded legal system in the world, bar none.
- being stimulated by a job where money is not the only motivating factor.
- the chance to use, manipulate, stretch, interpret, construe and generally play around with the English language.
- grappling with a subject which has an impact on absolutely every facet of our lives from your rights as an unborn child, the way in which your teachers must interract with you at school, your rights not to be discriminated against through colour, creed, gender or religion, your rights to purchase/own/sell property, the meeting of business and economics in the commercial world, freedoms of speech and privacy all the way through to your rights to euthanasia and distribution of your property on death.
- status and respect from yyour peers.
- being part of deals and litigation which make headline news.
- wearing a bespoke suit.
- appearing before a High Court judge in the Royal Courts of Justice knowing that lawyers have been doing the same in exactly the same spot for 150 years (possibly before the same judge...).
- helping clients solve their problems or achieve their goals.
- wigs.
With the greatest of respect, you can stick your investment banking.
- being part of the most highly regarded legal system in the world, bar none.
- being stimulated by a job where money is not the only motivating factor.
- the chance to use, manipulate, stretch, interpret, construe and generally play around with the English language.
- grappling with a subject which has an impact on absolutely every facet of our lives from your rights as an unborn child, the way in which your teachers must interract with you at school, your rights not to be discriminated against through colour, creed, gender or religion, your rights to purchase/own/sell property, the meeting of business and economics in the commercial world, freedoms of speech and privacy all the way through to your rights to euthanasia and distribution of your property on death.
- status and respect from yyour peers.
- being part of deals and litigation which make headline news.
- wearing a bespoke suit.
- appearing before a High Court judge in the Royal Courts of Justice knowing that lawyers have been doing the same in exactly the same spot for 150 years (possibly before the same judge...).
- helping clients solve their problems or achieve their goals.
- wigs.
With the greatest of respect, you can stick your investment banking.
Fantastically put.
-Minus the wigs
I too have read this no wig rumours....may well have to reconsider my entire future due to this travesty... I am choosing to study Law becuase it encompasses so many other areas that I love - history, politics, sociology, morals, philisophy. I may yet not choose a career in law but having a degree in it will open lots of windows of opportunities for me...thats the plan at least.
No wigs? Wtf? That's part of the appeal of becoming a barrister. Hmm, second thoughts yea get rid of them they look ugly.
Yes - the wigs do distinguish barristers from solicitors and rightly so in a way because there is a difference betw. the two. Barristers have rights of audience in a higher court whereas solicitors don't, only in the lower courts.
Yes - the wigs do distinguish barristers from solicitors and rightly so in a way because there is a difference betw. the two. Barristers have rights of audience in a higher court whereas solicitors don't, only in the lower courts.
eroded
Why on earth is law so damn popular? Seriously, I mean it's boring as hell and is pretty damn hard to get in to.
I know it's a bit of a death wish posting this on the law section, but I mean, I just can't understand the sheer numbers. If money's all you're bothered about, why not just work in the city with some IB or something...
So what made/makes you wanna take law?
I know it's a bit of a death wish posting this on the law section, but I mean, I just can't understand the sheer numbers. If money's all you're bothered about, why not just work in the city with some IB or something...
So what made/makes you wanna take law?
Also, you assume that all those studying Law at university will go on to become lawyers. I don't think I agree with you on this. Law is a very well reputed degree and requires great competence and ability in many different areas. If a potential employer sees a Law degree from a good university, whether they be banker or what have you, the chances are they are going to view this is a very positive thing. It demonstrates not only your aplomb but also a very good work ethic, something which is vital to a good law student (well, so they tell me
). There is absolutely no reason why you couldn't go into IB from a Law degree.Oh, and I agree with everything that chalks said. Especially the wigs part. Although, if I become a solicitor (as my plan dictates) I may never get to rest those mangled, old bits of fibre upon my fair head.
TommehR
Aha, Law being "boring as hell" is purely subjective and is only your opinion.
Typical lawyer's answer ^
Law is the only profession i have yet found where one can take complex, real-life situations and argue about them intellectually where the argument actually means anything.
Following on from Dreama's slightly more realistic post above, here's my alternative "back to reality" thoughts on the law:
- after 4 (or 5) years of study you start as a trainee and appear to have sole responsibility for the photocopier.
- the intricacies of remoteness of damage or Wednesbury reasonableness are replaced by proof-reading Offer Circulars into the early hours.
- 25 days holiday a year.
- your first foray into advocacy is actually a pant-wettingly terrifying appearance before a master in chambers where you get shouted at for not knowing the CPR inside out.
- M&S suits. The Row is just a dream.
- your high-flying City professional's warehouse apartment is actually a one bed flat in Stockwell.
- working for US clients/lawyers with the result that your day starts when theirs does and finishes accordingly.
- having your beautifully crafted letter of advice scribbled on in red pen by your boss in a "back to school" type moment.
- accidentally hitting "Reply to all" to firm-wide emails.
- clients. Life would be a lot simpler without them. Especially at 4.55 on a Friday.
- receiving a letter from the other side (other lawyers that is, not the spirit world) in which they pick holes in every aspect of your client's case or identify some horrific procedural error you have made which will now involve a rather shouty conversation in your supervisor's office.
- being forced to write articles for your department's client newsletter which invariably start with "And this month, Chalks explains the ramifications of Bloggs v Smeg on the widget reinsurance market".
- discovery (or disclosure as its called in the UK). You don't know what it is yet, but just wait for that first litigation seat during your training contract and the horrors will become clear.
Ah the joys....
- after 4 (or 5) years of study you start as a trainee and appear to have sole responsibility for the photocopier.
- the intricacies of remoteness of damage or Wednesbury reasonableness are replaced by proof-reading Offer Circulars into the early hours.
- 25 days holiday a year.
- your first foray into advocacy is actually a pant-wettingly terrifying appearance before a master in chambers where you get shouted at for not knowing the CPR inside out.
- M&S suits. The Row is just a dream.
- your high-flying City professional's warehouse apartment is actually a one bed flat in Stockwell.
- working for US clients/lawyers with the result that your day starts when theirs does and finishes accordingly.
- having your beautifully crafted letter of advice scribbled on in red pen by your boss in a "back to school" type moment.
- accidentally hitting "Reply to all" to firm-wide emails.
- clients. Life would be a lot simpler without them. Especially at 4.55 on a Friday.
- receiving a letter from the other side (other lawyers that is, not the spirit world) in which they pick holes in every aspect of your client's case or identify some horrific procedural error you have made which will now involve a rather shouty conversation in your supervisor's office.
- being forced to write articles for your department's client newsletter which invariably start with "And this month, Chalks explains the ramifications of Bloggs v Smeg on the widget reinsurance market".
- discovery (or disclosure as its called in the UK). You don't know what it is yet, but just wait for that first litigation seat during your training contract and the horrors will become clear.
Ah the joys....
chalks
Following on from Dreama's slightly more realistic post above, here's my alternative "back to reality" thoughts on the law:
- after 4 (or 5) years of study you start as a trainee and appear to have sole responsibility for the photocopier.
- the intricacies of remoteness of damage or Wednesbury reasonableness are replaced by proof-reading Offer Circulars into the early hours.
- 25 days holiday a year.
- your first foray into advocacy is actually a pant-wettingly terrifying appearance before a master in chambers where you get shouted at for not knowing the CPR inside out.
- M&S suits. The Row is just a dream.
- your high-flying City professional's warehouse apartment is actually a one bed flat in Stockwell.
- working for US clients/lawyers with the result that your day starts when theirs does and finishes accordingly.
- having your beautifully crafted letter of advice scribbled on in red pen by your boss in a "back to school" type moment.
- accidentally hitting "Reply to all" to firm-wide emails.
- clients. Life would be a lot simpler without them. Especially at 4.55 on a Friday.
- receiving a letter from the other side (other lawyers that is, not the spirit world) in which they pick holes in every aspect of your client's case or identify some horrific procedural error you have made which will now involve a rather shouty conversation in your supervisor's office.
- being forced to write articles for your department's client newsletter which invariably start with "And this month, Chalks explains the ramifications of Bloggs v Smeg on the widget reinsurance market".
- discovery (or disclosure as its called in the UK). You don't know what it is yet, but just wait for that first litigation seat during your training contract and the horrors will become clear.
Ah the joys....
- after 4 (or 5) years of study you start as a trainee and appear to have sole responsibility for the photocopier.
- the intricacies of remoteness of damage or Wednesbury reasonableness are replaced by proof-reading Offer Circulars into the early hours.
- 25 days holiday a year.
- your first foray into advocacy is actually a pant-wettingly terrifying appearance before a master in chambers where you get shouted at for not knowing the CPR inside out.
- M&S suits. The Row is just a dream.
- your high-flying City professional's warehouse apartment is actually a one bed flat in Stockwell.
- working for US clients/lawyers with the result that your day starts when theirs does and finishes accordingly.
- having your beautifully crafted letter of advice scribbled on in red pen by your boss in a "back to school" type moment.
- accidentally hitting "Reply to all" to firm-wide emails.
- clients. Life would be a lot simpler without them. Especially at 4.55 on a Friday.
- receiving a letter from the other side (other lawyers that is, not the spirit world) in which they pick holes in every aspect of your client's case or identify some horrific procedural error you have made which will now involve a rather shouty conversation in your supervisor's office.
- being forced to write articles for your department's client newsletter which invariably start with "And this month, Chalks explains the ramifications of Bloggs v Smeg on the widget reinsurance market".
- discovery (or disclosure as its called in the UK). You don't know what it is yet, but just wait for that first litigation seat during your training contract and the horrors will become clear.
Ah the joys....
haha - Chalks that was excellent.
If you don't mind me asking could you explain what you actually do/who you work for etc?
Chixidol
I read an article in Times legal supplement that Lord Chief Justice, a moderniser, is planning to remove the wigs from the courtroom as it discriminates solicitors and barristers.
Other arguments include the fact that a wig can make a barrister seem quite intimidating to witnesses/defendants and lead them to become more nervous than they already are.
It also makes them seem like big scary monsters to these people apparently, when really all they are, are people asking questions.
I had to discuss this with a reverend when I went up to Oxford for interview *
chalks
I am a commercial litigation lawyer. I used to work for one of the top 10 firms in the City for about 4 year post qualification. I now work in Sydney for one of a big international firm. And no, I'm not about to say which firms they are!
hey!
how much advocacy, if any at all is involved in the litigation lawyer's work?.
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