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Reply 380
Original post by Morgsie
I said what we would do unlike Labour


Why can't you just get a grip and stop insulting Labour all the time? Seriously, we're the only party you've been criticising so vehemently. Hey, you know, Labour and some parts of the Lib Dems actually aren't all that different, we might actually agree on some stuff! Why don't you concentrate your attacks on people you'll really disagree with instead of holding some sort of vendetta?
Reply 381
Original post by internetguru
It isn't a major change though I doubt anybody would even notice except when they go on holiday.


If the effect would be so minor then why are so desperate to leave.

Original post by eff01
Personally, I disagree with this argument. It is important to have one solid sustainable hub which is the focal point of the country. Stansted operates well below capacity today and there is a reason why international long haul flights are not attracted to that airport. Indeed Birmingham should be allowed to extend its runway, which will attract more international airlines which isn't possible today due to the length of its runway. But I do stress, that airlines are attracted to one solid hub in a country/region, which is seen as the main focus destination for that particular airline. Instead of having three airports in the SE, I really believe we only need one central airport in the region, with Birmingham and Manchester playing their part. I would like to see an airport in the SE being created, that is sustainable, addresses the issue of capacity today and has the ability to expand to meet the future capacity of tomorrow. Any aviation strategy needs to have airlines involved in the process, something Labour agrees with. Runway 3 is a quick fix that solves the issues of today and not the issues of tomorrow. A SE airport link will need have excellent transport infrastructure in place, which currently do not exists. HS1 does not run through Gatwick and Stansted is not linked with HS2.


Runway 3 is a quick fix alone however by allowing expansion at Gatwick and Birmingham (and elsewhere) we provide increased capacity with no cost to the taxpayer (privately funded) and can easily connect Gatwick and Stansted to the high speed network.

Were we starting from scratch then i would love a glorified hub but infrastructure already exists and can be expanded relatively easily and i suspect that a £50bn price tag would require some kind of state guarantee if not direct investment at the expense of the tax payer.
Original post by Rakas21
If the effect would be so minor then why are so desperate to leave.





Because the membership fee is quite high and it would be nice to spend that money elsewhere.
Hopefully we'll get a few members off the back of this election, but where's the mass PM? :P Need to get my sig updated so it links to the join a party bit.
Labour and Lib dems oversized fonts would make me vote elsewhere even if I wanted to vote for them in the first place.
Reply 385
Original post by internetguru
Because the membership fee is quite high and it would be nice to spend that money elsewhere.


So instead you want to save a pretty small amount, join the EFTA, accept 70% of EU regulation but have no say at all.
Original post by internetguru
Which really makes me think why bother having a referendum? If all our MPs were truly representing the people they would all vote in favour of leaving. We don't have referendums for massive tax changes etc things that have a much larger impact on people yet for some reason we need to have a referendum on this? The problem is the MPs supporting the EU in TSR land aren't looking out for the interests of the country, their vision has been clouded by real life politics.


The UK voted to remain in the EU in 1975, it is now very different, so I think we should vote to stay in (or leave). It's in the Tories' interests for their to be a referendum as it takes away the purpose of UKIP.
Original post by Matthew_Lowson
Wouldn't it make more sense to try and expand light railway links in the bigger metropolitan cities? I mean Sheffield has six railway stations and truthfully I don't think it needs much more, but there are disused lines within the city. These could be expanded light railway networks rather than creating cities with 15-20 railway stations in them.

Of course in smaller towns and suburbs this isn't possible but the Supertram and the Metrolinks all seem to have proven successful. As has the Overground.


More cable cars as in East London would be fun, as would an upside down railway as they have in Wuppertal.
Original post by Birchington
I think we should allocate £15 billion of money that would be spent on a third runway at Heathrow on a high-speed rail line linking Gatwick, Heathrow, Stansted, Luton and Southend airports. Three of these are currently operating way below capacity - building a new runway at Heathrow is madness when we can shift some of Heathrow's flights to neighbouring airports.

I used to like the Thames Estuary airport idea but I think a cheaper solution would be to join all of London's airports by rail and evenly distribute capacity. Far more sensible and cheaper IMHO.


My proposal for London O'Leary airport on the site of the shortly to be closed RAF Lyneham is even cheaper, as the rail line and M4 are very nearby.
Original post by prog2djent
Labour and Lib dems oversized fonts would make me vote elsewhere even if I wanted to vote for them in the first place.
Surely better than making people squint to read size 8 text.
Original post by LETSJaM
Can we move on from the Porn debacle; it's getting awfully boring. :yawn:

<3 x


I am reminded of the response when a young woman at a pub was asked 'what is your position on porn?' Her reply: 'wherever the director tells me'.

Let's debate other matters.
Still no mass PM. The organisation is usually much better than this.
Original post by barnetlad
More cable cars as in East London would be fun, as would an upside down railway as they have in Wuppertal.


Can Sheffield have a monorail then?
Original post by Melancholy
I voted for the Labour Party because they are nice people and I like nice people therefore I like the Labour Party. I encourage everyone else to follow in my footsteps.


John Major was nice and yet he privatised the railways.
Reply 394
Britain belo9ngs in the EU, I am fed up with it being awkward and those who argue for withdarawal really gets to me.

There are 2 main reasons: Politics and Economics.

Politics:
The EU acting as one on the world stage
Working together to tacklke common problems like climate change

Economics:
The Internal Market

(These are some arguments though are a load more)
Original post by tehFrance
Not at me but I believe in banning all face covering items as they could be used in robberies... if the Burqa so falls under that category then so be it, it shall be banned.


I assume this is in certain areas, not a general ban on covering your face?
Reply 396
Original post by barnetlad
John Major was nice and yet he privatised the railways.


Yes and the way it was done is heavily criticized.

BR was not involved at all
Original post by eff01
Personally, the proposal of a common EU Foreign Ministry is intriguing. A clear indication that the big hitters in Europe are moving towards a federal state.


I'd be concerned if Hermann Van Rumpuy led it, he really is boring to listen to (and I've heard him speak).

'Big hitters'? Is not the UK as the fourth largest economy in the world and the second largest in the EU not a big hitter? The country that gave the world decent beer, cricket, many other team sports, the rule of law, parliamentary democracy, humour and Wensleydale cheese?
Original post by Morgsie
Britain belo9ngs in the EU, I am fed up with it being awkward and those who argue for withdarawal really gets to me.

There are 2 main reasons: Politics and Economics.

Politics:
The EU acting as one on the world stage
Working together to tacklke common problems like climate change

Economics:
The Internal Market

(These are some arguments though are a load more)


You've clearly spent a long time fleshing those out.

What about autonomy, soverignty, the ability to do what we want (eg nationalise our railways) without being restricted by a foreign body?

The EU is bloated, expensive and obstructive.
Reply 399
Original post by barnetlad
I'd be concerned if Hermann Van Rumpuy led it, he really is boring to listen to (and I've heard him speak).

'Big hitters'? Is not the UK as the fourth largest economy in the world and the second largest in the EU not a big hitter? The country that gave the world decent beer, cricket, many other team sports, the rule of law, parliamentary democracy, humour and Wensleydale cheese?


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