Where is the feminist outrage over what happened in Rotherham?

how many feminists does it take to change a lightbulb?
PPFFFTTTTT, feminists cant change anything

how many anti-feminists does it take to change a light-bulb? none-they prefer to stay in the dark. get over yourself

how many anti-feminists does it take to change a light-bulb? none-they prefer to stay in the dark. get over yourself

To an extent. I don't believe the "every man is a potential rapist" but I do genuinely think there are some deeply embedded ideas that are rapey

Feminists get outraged when they see a problem and find its legal or nothing is being done.
Lad culture is not illegal
Rape is
Hence feminist wont make a huge deal about something that is already illegal.

Racism= being more concerened about a Pakistani man grooming their child than a white man= more reports of Pakistani men grooming. I'm not saying it's is the truth but you can't dismiss it as a lie

They keep going on about imaginary rape culture in universities (caused by silly pop songs and 'lad banter'), but ignore a real 'rape culture' where young girls are groomed by men and passed around without impunity.

The men guilty of these crimes were predominately of Pakistani hertiage. Of course their ethnicity isn't to blame but rather primitive cultural and religion aspects that most Pakistani Brits have shook off. Modern feminists seem to let them of the hook because they are non-white or foreign.

He implied Pakistanis as a whole were rapey. I wouldhave depended the statement if he said "British men are rapey". Just because there may be elements which need changing doesn't make the culture as a whole a rape culture

My boyfriend's ethnicity is irrelevant to this discussion

Principal word there being 'these'. Not every Muslim in Glasgow is out looking for young girls.

Clearly a racial issue? Is that because you don't notice the white paedophiles hanging around schools and clubs?

Oh right.

It is a lie. The statistics haven't been made up. Racism was the the reason the council let them abuse girls for so long. They were scared of being called racist. So the problems of racism are on the other side.

There is a real issue, why are Pakistani males SO overrepresented? Why do they form large gangs and networks to trade girls with? Why is this a phenomenon in their community and not in other South Asian communities?

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tbh i think ur in the stone age with this issue. the whole "lets ignore the racial element" attitude to this problem is one of the main things that has contributed to the problem getting worse.

sorry but child protection comes first over the racial offence of grown adults.

im sick of people who are brand new to this issue determined to take it a step back.

anyone that works in the area now admits even many pakistanis now cannot go on denying that this is a problem that has got way out of control.

and its the pakistani community that has allowed it. and also the british people that are mored concerned about being offensive to asians than they are about the protection of these girls. you should all be disgusted and ashamed with yourselves. i will never forget or let anyone try n forget about the part theyve played in assisting these evil men. and that includes the people like you that try to help the pedophiles by ignoring the elements that cause this behaviour. as i said. you should be ashamed of yourself.

Why are you being so aggressive? Every time a white person commits a crime you never hear of their wthnicity or culture...but if an Asian person does it all you hear is their ethnicity

Rubbish. Consider for instance this article on the BBC website highlighting child rape cases in other towns, published on August 27th (post-Rotherham): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28953549

Oxford: "Seven men were sentenced to a total of 95 years in June 2013, for offences including rape, facilitating child prostitution and trafficking. "

Derby: "Nine men were convicted over three trials of systematically grooming and sexually abusing teenage girls in 2010."

Rochdale: "In May 2012, nine men were given sentences ranging from four to 19 years after being found guilty of offences including rape and conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with a child."

Telford: "Seven men were jailed after a series of court cases related to a child prostitution ring. The charges included rape, trafficking and prostitution, sometimes involving girls as young as 13."

Peterborough: "A gang of five males was jailed in February after being found guilty of raping and sexually assaulting five vulnerable girls. The men and youths were of Czech and Slovak Roma and Kurdish backgrounds."

We know from reporting elsewhere that the men involved in Oxford, Derby, Rochdale and Telford were Pakistani Muslims, but the BBC continues to conceal that fact whilst pointing out the ethnicity of the only non-Pakistanis involved.

People are acting like Asian men are the only paedophiles out there. Ignoring the fact that it isn't solely about 'sorting out Asian men' but sorting out men (and even women in some cases) who think its okay to commit acts of paedophilia. By acting like Asian men are the only groups of men that do disgusting stuff like this, you're indirectly making it seem like it's okay to commit sexual abuse as long as you're not Asian and 'can get away with it'. Jimmy Saville was a sexual offender for six decades, sexually abusing hundreds of people, female and male from all different ages and he never got prosecuted or even charged for it suggesting that there is something wrong with the justice system which is allowing sexual offenders to go unnoticed and unpunished for far too long, and also something wrong with various institutions and communities scattered across the country which are all allowing child abuse and grooming to go on with no one challenging or reporting it. Grooming and child abuse isn't exclusive to Pakistani men in Rotherham, but is something that affects people in all different communities by people of all different ethnicities. We aren't ever going to be able to eliminate it if we adopt an 'us v. them' mentality that suggests 'we're all okay' and 'they're all paedophiles'.

let me just remind you that other people can read my posts. they are able to look at what i've said and then look at your accusation of me indirectly saying its ok to be a pedophile so long as your not asian... so they are able to see how disjointed and illogical that accusation is.

what planet are you on to even say that?

how dare you accuse me of condoning pedophilia for highlighting a problem area.

the pakistani pedophile problem is unique. why? why am i selecting it as a higher priority issue than regular pedophilia?

1. the pakistani community is assisting the pedophiles in their evasion from justice.
2. the establishment is helping them get away with it because they are afraid to put pressure on the pakistani community out of fear of being racist.
3. pakistani pedophiles are JUST being uncovered and the issue has turned out to be just the tip of the ice burg. its been such a neglected problem for so long that it is now out of hand.
4. race is an issue. these men are racist and racially targeting outside of their community. it is blended with anti western hate ideology.
5. islamic law permits pedophilia, slavery and rape.
6. the community ideals of the pakistani community do not see this as a problem and blame the victims.
7. the pakistani community is so cut off offenders have been let off without jail time because they did not even know british law.
8. this issue is fuelling the right wing causes and is thus making things much more dangerous for other minorities.
9. pakitani pedophile populations are grossly over represented in the pedophile crime circles and even more so when it comes to gang rape and trafficking.

so this is a huge issue and larger than just pedophilia on its own. its racial, sectarian, ideological and political.

now. are any of the above examples you made similar to this?
no.
Jimmy Saville is one man.
catholic pedophiles rape catholics.
hasidic jewish pedophiles rape hasidic jews.
chinese pedophiles rape chinese children.

so this is very different issue.

considering you havent even grasped the unique M.O. circumstances and all the other weighing factors surrounding this issue. i don't expect you to even come close to contributing anything positive.

in fact you'll probably make things worse by helping hide the pedophiles by saying "its not a problem please everyone ignore it its nothing to do with race, culture, or religion. everyone go back to sleep nothing to see here. LOOK look at the other pedophiles? everyones doing it? so whats the big deal with them doing it?"

there is NO OTHER GROUP that you can compare to doing this.
there is no other group that tolerates pedophiles so long as they do not rape kids in their community.

the us vs them mentality from the pakistani community is the exact reason why this problem has got so out of control.

clearly you dont think this is a problem worth mentioning. just another day right? pffft..

Our culture constantly exploits women and treats them as mere objects of pleasure. Islam is actually very respectful of women and it's important that they are treated like precious jewels, rather than mere objects for men to gawp at. It's worth noting that in countries such as Saudi Arabia, domestic abuse and rape is much rarer than in Western countries.

Calm down. No need to get so hot-headed, if you read my post carefully you'll see that I didn't actually say you were condoning paedophilia but was actually saying that by putting so much focus on one ethnicity that commits paedophilia without actually putting focus on paedophilia as a whole, in all ethnicities, it makes it seem like Pakistani's are the only problem and makes it seem like what makes this truly disgusting is the fact that their Asian, and not the fact that their paedophiles making it seem like its okay for other ethnicities to do it as long as they aren't Asian. We shouldn't target Asians alone, but target all paedophiles, from any race, community, ethnicity, whatever. The narrative is focused too much on their ethnicity and not enough on their crimes.

Exactly Jimmy Saville is one man, one man who was able to sexually abuse hundreds of people over the course of 60 years without ever getting caught. Jimmy Saville isn't an isolated case, there are plenty of other people who have been charged/accused of sexual abuse in high positions and have been left alone for far too long with their crimes, Jimmy Saville died without ever getting caught. There are probably plenty of others who are still sexually abusing people but getting away with it. If you isolate the problem to Asian communities alone, you're effectively ignoring all other communities and institutions that are allowing sexual abuse to carry on. That doesn't mean we should take the heat off these institutions like you're accusing me of saying, it just means we shouldn't blame the ethnicity of these people on their disgusting acts.

I'm not sure what you're suggesting there, that all the other cases of sexual abuse are different because they committed it on people of the same ethnicity/religion as them? So it's now suddenly an issue when you sexually abuse someone of a different race/ethnicity/religion as you? Really? that's what makes these cases different, the race of the victims? Why should the fact that their victims were white have anything to do with it? At the end of their day they're all victims, whether Catholic, Chinese, White, Pakistani, whatever. Another example of people putting TOO much focus on the race, ethnicity or religion of victims/perpetrators instead of the crime itself.

What about starting a narrative on how we combat paedophilia and sexual abuse as a whole? There's recently been a sexual abuse scandal with paedophilia in the BBC, there's recently been a seuxal abuse scandal with paedophilia in the Parliament, there's now a sexual abuse scandal of paedophilia in communities such as Rotherham. All these cases share a common factor, the fact that they've been allowed to carry on for far too long, all for different reasons. Instead of isolating them and treating them differently because the race of the perpetrators and victims are different, we should focus on improving the justice system so that NO ONE, from any race, ethnicity or position of trust can get away with sexual abuse.

My point isn't that we should ignore Rotherham, or ignore communities where paedophilia is permitted, my point is we shouldn't get too bogged down on the ethnicities of these sick individuals because by doing that you're ignoring the bigger picture. The authorities are quick to blame political correctness and fear of racism for their incompetence because it takes the limelight off them, the authorities have failed to act appropriately in various different cases involving different institutions and communities, by over emphasizing ethnicity and race you're failing to acknowledge the fact that our justice system is flawed. People of all different colours and different backgrounds are turning a blind-eye to sexual abuse and that needs to stop.

so to clarify.
you think the race hate element should be ignored.
you think the culture and religious ideology and the fact that it incubates this type of behaviour should not be looked into.
you also think the assistance and aid given to the pedophiles from the community to help them evade justice should also be ignored.
you think the trafficking element should be ignored.
you think the rising stats and incidences of a growing number of pedophiles from that community should also be ignored.

so for example
you think all the charities helping tackle drink problems in the irish community should be canceled because although irish may be effected more by drinking, the problem is with alcoholism and factors of irish culture be dismissed.

you also must then think that operation trident should be canceled and that the black community should not be focused on as a problem area of gun crime despite them clearly having a problem with gun crime disproportionate to their community. and of course the fact that its other black people getting killed by these guns. so we should ignore the culture and history of the black communities that came over during wind rush and their alienation from police assistance aswell as the civil war in jamaica between politcal parties that spawned a gun culture exported along with their community. no trident and all that information should be ignored and dismissed. really this is a problem with all guns and the whole community.

this type of ignorance you have is exactly whats giving fuel to the extreme right.
when moderates don't handle a clear problem. extreme right wing will come in to "save the day". you are not helping with your mentality.

also you've completely ignored most of my points about THE COMMUNITY THAT HARBOURS THEM. not the pedophiles themselves. i really don't no how many times i have to repeat that. i don't know if your just avoiding it cuz its a difficult area or if its just going over your head. but i'd expect u to acknowledge it since its a big part of the problem.

No, I specifically said that you can deal with the communities but you shouldn't put too much emphasis on their ethnicity. It isn't their ethnicity that makes them do these horrible things. Why is it when a white person commits a crime or white people commit crimes, no one comments on their race, culture or whatever but when people from other races commit crimes, suddenly it's a problem with their race? Answer that question for me? I'm not saying don't question that community, I repeat community just don't blame their acts on a 'growing problem with Pakistanis' because paedophilia is present in many different communities and ethnicities, By focusing on one specific ethnicity, you're essentially ignoring the full picture, which is that paedophilia and sexual abuse within communities isn't being tackled effectively. We don't know how many paedophile rings out there, we don't know how many children are being groomed out there, instead of going on about how these people are Pakistani and how 'Pakistani culture is primitive', we should make sure that NO ONE gets away with sexual abuse, full stop. That doesn't mean you ignore the problems in these communities, that's not what I'm saying at all, it just means you stop zoning in on the easy narrative 'primitive culture causes sexual abuse and grooming' but start looking at the bigger problems 'police incompetent at protecting citizens' 'communities reluctant to speak out' 'victims too scared to report abuse' because putting all Pakistanis or Asians under one umbrella isn't going to stop paedophilia.

Let me ask you something, if they were all white, would anyone even mention their race? Would anyone even mention their culture? Because people know not all white people are like that. These men are disgusting, they're not disgusting because their culture teaches them to be, their not disgusting because they're Pakistani, they are disgusting because they're disgusting.

You can try solve problems in the communities, you can try encourage people to speak out against sexual abuse, I'm not saying ignore all these I'm just saying don't blame their ethnicity on their crimes because you wouldn't be doing that if they were white