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Original post by Judah
I would go and get some legal advice....seems a little unfair that a mistake in the past is totally ruining your future.
If no children or vulnerable people where hurt in the process of what you did, then it seems misuse of the dbs system.
Pi would ask to see the university policy, and what prevents you from gaining a place on the course. You would normally have to disclose all the circumstance and this then is presented to an Independent panel for a decision.
i hope you find a way around it all......good luck
If no children or vulnerable people where hurt in the process of what you did, then it seems misuse of the dbs system.
Pi would ask to see the university policy, and what prevents you from gaining a place on the course. You would normally have to disclose all the circumstance and this then is presented to an Independent panel for a decision.
i hope you find a way around it all......good luck
I don't think you understand DBS or the exemptions from the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act .
there are nio 'spent ' convictions in these settings and the default is towards public protection
Acquisitive crime, is something which is likely to stop people from working in regulated activities , especially if it's anything other than simple theft as a juvenile .
Financial abuse is a significant issue in safeguarding and allowing a convicted Fraudster access to vulnerable groups and other people are times of vulnerability is something which few employers are willing to take a risk on.
(edited 9 years ago)
Original post by zippyRN
I don't think you understand DBS or the exemptions from the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act .
there are nio 'spent ' convictions in these settings and the default is towards public protection
Acquisitive crime, is something which is likely to stop people from working in regulated activities , especially if it's anything other than simple theft as a juvenile .
Financial abuse is a significant issue in safeguarding and allowing a convicted Fraudster access to vulnerable groups and other people are times of vulnerability is something which few employers are willing to take a risk on.
there are nio 'spent ' convictions in these settings and the default is towards public protection
Acquisitive crime, is something which is likely to stop people from working in regulated activities , especially if it's anything other than simple theft as a juvenile .
Financial abuse is a significant issue in safeguarding and allowing a convicted Fraudster access to vulnerable groups and other people are times of vulnerability is something which few employers are willing to take a risk on.
Hi.....I have over 12 years as a serving police officer! I to be honest have a wealth of knowledge in this area....as it was in specialised units.
Without knowing all the facts of the offence/offences which we don't....then to be honest we cannot judge!
On a dbs for any childcare / vulnerable adult setting both vulnerable adults, children and anything at the police discretion would be searched. Yes, as you rightly point out nothing would be spent!
However, unless children or vulnerable people where involved, then it would be up to the university/employer whether or not they decided she was a risk to vulnerable groups.
After 12 years, she deserves a break, and is entitled to present her case to the university to make a final decision.
i wish her all the best, and I hope she finds away around it!
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Original post by Judah
I would go and get some legal advice....seems a little unfair that a mistake in the past is totally ruining your future.
If no children or vulnerable people where hurt in the process of what you did, then it seems misuse of the dbs system.
Pi would ask to see the university policy, and what prevents you from gaining a place on the course. You would normally have to disclose all the circumstance and this then is presented to an Independent panel for a decision.
i hope you find a way around it all......good luck
If no children or vulnerable people where hurt in the process of what you did, then it seems misuse of the dbs system.
Pi would ask to see the university policy, and what prevents you from gaining a place on the course. You would normally have to disclose all the circumstance and this then is presented to an Independent panel for a decision.
i hope you find a way around it all......good luck
Thanks once again. Stay well😊
what was the outcome?
Original post by Shattered Dreams
Hiya... Thanx for noticing my line. Any idea how to go about pursuing a nursing career with a past conviction of theft and fraud from 12yrs ago??? All my applications are being rejected as soon as my crb certificate is on the table.
Are you sure this is why you're being rejected? Are you working in the care sector? If so you would have to have been dbs checked for your job. If your conviction is spent, employers are not allowed to ask about it, unless it is an exempt occupation, such as working with children / vulnerable adults etc. Also when you apply at the UCAS stage you only 'declare' that you have a conviction, the university doesn't yet know the details.
Also check out the new government guidlines on filtering. If you only have 1 conviction of a certain type it can be erased from your dbs (crb) after 12 years.
I have an old conviction from 12 years ago that is due to be filtered off my dbs this July. I have been working in the care sector for a number of years and have always been upfront about it, writing it on the application form and answering any questions at interview if asked. I have applied to university to start this september and I have an unconditional offer. I had to fill in a convictions declaration at my university interview and declared it, even though it is due to be filtered off, as I wasnt sure if the dbs would go through before or after July.
I would guess that your application is being rejected for different reasons such as not having sufficient health care experience? Apologies if this is not the case, but with what you said about assuming an identity to get a job, it doesnt sound as if youre working in a related field, as you usually have to show lots of identification.
Original post by Shattered Dreams
Hi guys. I'm Shattered Dreams.
I'm new on here and was wondering if anyone has a similar crb problem and how to tackle it. Thanx
I'm new on here and was wondering if anyone has a similar crb problem and how to tackle it. Thanx
Hey, I'm on the same boat as you. I got a conviction of a battery 3 yrs back and I am struggling to get into universities for my dream career😔.I know this post is from 2014 but just wondering if you were successful to get any offer?
Original post by Speed1987
Right you have to really think this one through, i am not advising you do this.
I am a qualified nurse, now when I got into University I met two people with criminal records... How did they get on the course they didn't tell the university they had a criminal record... The ducked and dived the CRB process one managed this until 3rd year and they allowed him to stay on the course after because he had proved his trust, he was charged with GBH. The other dangerous driving, was allowed to stay on.
During my course 2 students got done for drunk driving, one even toppled his car on the motorway drunk both still qaulified.
My friend got caught with Cannabis possession when she was like 16, didn't declare got accepted for an art therapy degree now work is in a school.
Where does honesty always get you? You have to behonest as a nurse, but for you maybe you have to reflect on the examples I've given you.
if I was an admission tutor and I knew you had a criminal record I would say no because I have 1500 other applicants who don't. Now it's likely this will get bought to you in the first year as sometimes they won't let you do placement, then beg and plead at that point saying as you are how desperate you were but nobody would consider you
I am a qualified nurse, now when I got into University I met two people with criminal records... How did they get on the course they didn't tell the university they had a criminal record... The ducked and dived the CRB process one managed this until 3rd year and they allowed him to stay on the course after because he had proved his trust, he was charged with GBH. The other dangerous driving, was allowed to stay on.
During my course 2 students got done for drunk driving, one even toppled his car on the motorway drunk both still qaulified.
My friend got caught with Cannabis possession when she was like 16, didn't declare got accepted for an art therapy degree now work is in a school.
Where does honesty always get you? You have to behonest as a nurse, but for you maybe you have to reflect on the examples I've given you.
if I was an admission tutor and I knew you had a criminal record I would say no because I have 1500 other applicants who don't. Now it's likely this will get bought to you in the first year as sometimes they won't let you do placement, then beg and plead at that point saying as you are how desperate you were but nobody would consider you
possibly the worst advice ever. the person has crimes of theift and dishonesty do you really believe telling them yo be dishonest is fine. first your convicts will always show. to not disclose themis going to get you removed its that simple. the op has enough of a up hill task getting on a course and then getting a job. you need to be totally frank. did these crimes involve a breach of trust.
Original post by Shattered Dreams
Hiya... Thanx for noticing my line. Any idea how to go about pursuing a nursing career with a past conviction of theft and fraud from 12yrs ago??? All my applications are being rejected as soon as my crb certificate is on the table.
If you don’t try, you don’t get. You can’t assume that they will reject you because of what you did 12 years ago. 12 years ago compared to now is a huge gap within the time frame and I am sure that you’ve learnt from your mistakes and reformed into a new person.
They will respect you more for your honesty than cheating the system.
Apply and see where it goes.
(edited 6 years ago)
Original post by Speed1987
Right you have to really think this one through, i am not advising you do this.
I am a qualified nurse, now when I got into University I met two people with criminal records... How did they get on the course they didn't tell the university they had a criminal record... The ducked and dived the CRB process one managed this until 3rd year and they allowed him to stay on the course after because he had proved his trust, he was charged with GBH. The other dangerous driving, was allowed to stay on.
During my course 2 students got done for drunk driving, one even toppled his car on the motorway drunk both still qaulified.
My friend got caught with Cannabis possession when she was like 16, didn't declare got accepted for an art therapy degree now work is in a school.
Where does honesty always get you? You have to behonest as a nurse, but for you maybe you have to reflect on the examples I've given you.
if I was an admission tutor and I knew you had a criminal record I would say no because I have 1500 other applicants who don't. Now it's likely this will get bought to you in the first year as sometimes they won't let you do placement, then beg and plead at that point saying as you are how desperate you were but nobody would consider you
I am a qualified nurse, now when I got into University I met two people with criminal records... How did they get on the course they didn't tell the university they had a criminal record... The ducked and dived the CRB process one managed this until 3rd year and they allowed him to stay on the course after because he had proved his trust, he was charged with GBH. The other dangerous driving, was allowed to stay on.
During my course 2 students got done for drunk driving, one even toppled his car on the motorway drunk both still qaulified.
My friend got caught with Cannabis possession when she was like 16, didn't declare got accepted for an art therapy degree now work is in a school.
Where does honesty always get you? You have to behonest as a nurse, but for you maybe you have to reflect on the examples I've given you.
if I was an admission tutor and I knew you had a criminal record I would say no because I have 1500 other applicants who don't. Now it's likely this will get bought to you in the first year as sometimes they won't let you do placement, then beg and plead at that point saying as you are how desperate you were but nobody would consider you
For a qualified nurse, you should be ashamed of yourself for promoting dishonesty to a person who wants to be honest about their history.
The advice you have given is terrible and you should also question yourself and thoughts in regards to honesty. You are also breaching the code of conduct.
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Original post by The Uniqueness
For a qualified nurse, you should be ashamed of yourself for promoting dishonesty to a person who wants to be honest about their history.
The advice you have given is terrible and you should also question yourself and thoughts in regards to honesty. You are also breaching the code of conduct.
The advice you have given is terrible and you should also question yourself and thoughts in regards to honesty. You are also breaching the code of conduct.
High horse much?
Original post by Napp
High horse much?
Not really? It's pretty bad advice! I mean what if you get found out? Could you not loose your job for gaining employment with deception and then be hauled in front of the nmc for misconduct and maybe struck off. I know it sounds far fetched but seen some of the nmc hearings records and people have been struck off for worse. So yeah it's pretty bad advice tbh.
Original post by Trapped
There are 4 people on my access course with convictions pursuing a career in nursing. One for common assault, selling alcohol without a license, drink driving, and domestic violence.
Are you not declaring your convictions before submitting your applications for employment? You need to be open and honest. By not declaring your convictions, this raises more questions than answers.
Moreover, the law changed in may of last year, your convictions may be eligible for filtering providing they are not on the list of offences that will never be filtered.
http://hub.unlock.org.uk/knowledgebase/filtering-cautions-convictions/
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/dbs-list-of-offences-that-will-never-be-filtered-from-a-criminal-record-check
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/338933/Filtering_guide_v2.3.pdf
Are you not declaring your convictions before submitting your applications for employment? You need to be open and honest. By not declaring your convictions, this raises more questions than answers.
Moreover, the law changed in may of last year, your convictions may be eligible for filtering providing they are not on the list of offences that will never be filtered.
http://hub.unlock.org.uk/knowledgebase/filtering-cautions-convictions/
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/dbs-list-of-offences-that-will-never-be-filtered-from-a-criminal-record-check
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/338933/Filtering_guide_v2.3.pdf
Hi, please sorry for texting, wanted to know if the student who was in your class with common assault got offered a job after the school? I have a caution for common assault and a job I applied for just withdrawn the conditional offer? Please do kindly reply me as I've been sick since last week when the offer was withdrawn, don't know if caution for common assault would prevent me from working as a nurse. Thanks
Original post by Fran88
Hi, please sorry for texting, wanted to know if the student who was in your class with common assault got offered a job after the school? I have a caution for common assault and a job I applied for just withdrawn the conditional offer? Please do kindly reply me as I've been sick since last week when the offer was withdrawn, don't know if caution for common assault would prevent me from working as a nurse. Thanks
Has the employer given any reason as to why they've withdrawn the offer?
Original post by moonkatt
Has the employer given any reason as to why they've withdrawn the offer?
They said I do not have satisfactory DBS.
Original post by Fran88
They said I do not have satisfactory DBS.
Did you disclose with them on application that you would have this on your DBS?
Original post by moonkatt
Did you disclose with them on application that you would have this on your DBS?
Yeah please, I did.
Original post by Fran88
Yeah please, I did.
It might be worth getting back to them and asking why they felt it was unsatisfactory. You will get some employers who will drop you if there’s any history, but there are plenty of others who would be willing to hear you out and give you a chance.
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