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Applying for registration with a conviction

Hi,

I have a previous conviction from 7 years ago for fraud. I have worked as a carer since then with them being aware of my conviction and when I applied to uni I declared my conviction and all the unis I applied for accepted me. Fast forward 3 years and now it’s time to apply to the nmc for my pin. They have asked for a written statement, personal reflection and a reference from my uni to confirm I declared my conviction. My registration is due to be looked at by the assistant registrar at the nmc to decide if I can join the register. Has anyone been in this position before and been refused/allowed?
Original post by Sarahessex94
Hi,

I have a previous conviction from 7 years ago for fraud. I have worked as a carer since then with them being aware of my conviction and when I applied to uni I declared my conviction and all the unis I applied for accepted me. Fast forward 3 years and now it’s time to apply to the nmc for my pin. They have asked for a written statement, personal reflection and a reference from my uni to confirm I declared my conviction. My registration is due to be looked at by the assistant registrar at the nmc to decide if I can join the register. Has anyone been in this position before and been refused/allowed?


Hi

As you already declared this to university and therefore NMC would had probably been notified of this as well at time of you starting as a student nurse then I don't think there is anything to worry about with them investigate this as it's part of the process of being allowed on the register.

Unfortunately NMC has the final say on our future as nurses but you will be given it OK. They check every detail on you to make sure you are obviously fit to practice as a newly qualified nurse.

Been through this myself couple years ago on qualifying as midwife but providing there's nothing more serious then look forward in getting started as a newly qualified nurse.


This is what the NMC says on this on last paragraph.
( When we wouldn't reinvestigate
If a nurse, midwife or nursing associate is accused of offending in their private life, based on incidents that have no connection with their practice as a registered professional, and they are not convicted, we are far less justified in reinvestigating the facts.

The allegations wouldn’t really be connected with our role as a professional regulator, and the investigation would not need the specialist knowledge of our regulatory investigators or case examiners.

Nurses, midwives or nursing associate's fitness to practise can be affected by very serious offending in their private life for which they are convicted. But if they aren't convicted, it's not our role to fill in any perceived gaps in the criminal justice system by taking regulatory action against them if there isn't a clear link to patient safety, clinical practice, or professional standards.

For example, if a nurse, midwife or nursing associate is investigated for an alleged mortgage fraud against a bank, but the prosecution collapses, it wouldn’t be our role to reinvestigate whether they acted dishonesty as part of a possible misconduct case. )))
Original post by Tracey_W
Hi

As you already declared this to university and therefore NMC would had probably been notified of this as well at time of you starting as a student nurse then I don't think there is anything to worry about with them investigate this as it's part of the process of being allowed on the register.

Unfortunately NMC has the final say on our future as nurses but you will be given it OK. They check every detail on you to make sure you are obviously fit to practice as a newly qualified nurse.

Been through this myself couple years ago on qualifying as midwife but providing there's nothing more serious then look forward in getting started as a newly qualified nurse.


This is what the NMC says on this on last paragraph.
( When we wouldn't reinvestigate
If a nurse, midwife or nursing associate is accused of offending in their private life, based on incidents that have no connection with their practice as a registered professional, and they are not convicted, we are far less justified in reinvestigating the facts.

The allegations wouldn’t really be connected with our role as a professional regulator, and the investigation would not need the specialist knowledge of our regulatory investigators or case examiners.

Nurses, midwives or nursing associate's fitness to practise can be affected by very serious offending in their private life for which they are convicted. But if they aren't convicted, it's not our role to fill in any perceived gaps in the criminal justice system by taking regulatory action against them if there isn't a clear link to patient safety, clinical practice, or professional standards.

For example, if a nurse, midwife or nursing associate is investigated for an alleged mortgage fraud against a bank, but the prosecution collapses, it wouldn’t be our role to reinvestigate whether they acted dishonesty as part of a possible misconduct case. )))

Hi,

Thanks for the reply. The above information appears to relate to people who haven’t been convicted but I have. I am also applying to be a midwife. I wasn’t advised that the nmc are made aware when starting the course, I was told it is down to the uni to decide when you apply for the course. Can I ask what your conviction was for?
Original post by Sarahessex94
Hi,

Thanks for the reply. The above information appears to relate to people who haven’t been convicted but I have. I am also applying to be a midwife. I wasn’t advised that the nmc are made aware when starting the course, I was told it is down to the uni to decide when you apply for the course. Can I ask what your conviction was for?

I never had any convictions as they check every thing due to nature of the job you'll be doing. I was only saying that university could have notified NMC at beginning as whether or not they do is the thing...

Usually if the university accepts it then as long as they tell NMC when asked about this then you'll be ok as they have to obviously explain circumstances on why they allowed you on the course.



Look at the bottom paragraph - ( For example, if a nurse, midwife or nursing associate is investigated for an alleged mortgage fraud against a bank, but the prosecution collapses, it wouldn’t be our role to reinvestigate whether they acted dishonesty as part of a possible misconduct case.))
Original post by Tracey_W
I never had any convictions as they check every thing due to nature of the job you'll be doing. I was only saying that university could have notified NMC at beginning as whether or not they do is the thing...

Usually if the university accepts it then as long as they tell NMC when asked about this then you'll be ok as they have to obviously explain circumstances on why they allowed you on the course.



Look at the bottom paragraph - ( For example, if a nurse, midwife or nursing associate is investigated for an alleged mortgage fraud against a bank, but the prosecution collapses, it wouldn’t be our role to reinvestigate whether they acted dishonesty as part of a possible misconduct case.))

Thank you but that bottom paragraph doesn’t apply to me because that’s for people who wasn’t convicted but I was
Original post by Sarahessex94
Thank you but that bottom paragraph doesn’t apply to me because that’s for people who wasn’t convicted but I was

No worries

Yeah it's a example of how they would investigate or not .

You'll be looking forward in becoming a newly qualified midwife and are doing hospital based or community.

You'll be shadowed for your first few shifts to allow the ward sister or whoever you'll be under to see how competent you are with dealing with things as a new midwife and then you'll be doing things yourself. It's a good feeling when you do your first delivery as a newly qualified midwife as won't forget it ....
Reply 6
as long as that is it and the uni approves you. then do what they ask. unless it was stealing off a patient position of trust you will be passed. however your going to have to convince new employers that they should employ you. that may be harder. you really cant take any chances with any future convictions. when i started even a caution would end your training, even worse the wife was told she could not get married. this was in the late 1980s
Original post by paub
as long as that is it and the uni approves you. then do what they ask. unless it was stealing off a patient position of trust you will be passed. however your going to have to convince new employers that they should employ you. that may be harder. you really cant take any chances with any future convictions. when i started even a caution would end your training, even worse the wife was told she could not get married. this was in the late 1980s

My employer/placement have offered me a job and have no issue with it. I’m hoping they see this was a massive mistake and the conviction was nothing to do with patients as this was years ago before I started training
Reply 8
Original post by Sarahessex94
My employer/placement have offered me a job and have no issue with it. I’m hoping they see this was a massive mistake and the conviction was nothing to do with patients as this was years ago before I started training

then relax prepare your reflection and how you changed. and then enjoy your post.
Reply 9
Original post by Sarahessex94
Hi,

I have a previous conviction from 7 years ago for fraud. I have worked as a carer since then with them being aware of my conviction and when I applied to uni I declared my conviction and all the unis I applied for accepted me. Fast forward 3 years and now it’s time to apply to the NMC for my pin. They have asked for a written statement, personal reflection and a reference from my uni to confirm I declared my conviction. My registration is due to be looked at by the assistant registrar at the NMC to decide if I can join the register. Has anyone been in this position before and been refused/allowed?

Hello,
Please, do you get your PIN? If yes, how long does it take? I am waiting for my pin, cohort members are receiving their pin one after the order. I am still waiting to know if my registration has been accepted. My conviction was 12 years ago and I have changed my life around.

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