Sex, Virginity and Men

Im not stretching. Im saying if you say your partner sleeping with other people is ok then why do you have the need to "make a commitment" for them not to sleep with other people whilst you are together?

All I get in response is "breaking the commitment is bad" "you're breaking a promise" "youve broken the trust and that's why it's bad" etc which does not answer the question. No one has been able to give any reason as to why that commitment to not sleep with other people whilst your partner is with you should exist in the first place if your partner having slept with others is not important.

You never answered my question, I asked why have an agreement that you shouldnt sleep with other people whilst you're together in the first place? You reply "because it's breaking the trust!" I ask why do you need to have a trust based agreement that you will not sleep with others during the relationship if your partner sleeping with others does not matter. You said "im happier monogamous" that hardly answered the question, it was just a contradiction.

My question is if your partner having slept with others does not matter why do you need to have an agreement with them that they will not sleep with others whilst you're in a relationship with them?

You also mentioned about a "contract" entering in force once you're in a relationship but again the question is sidestepped, why is your partner not sleeping with others part of that contract if them having slept with others does not matter?

Literally, you can't be this stupid. Oh my good God. Please tell me you're winding me up. Your comprehension skills can't be this bad, or you couldn't type proper sentences.

Someone, please back me up here, I feel like I'm going mad with this guy.

That's a different matter, that's talking about the betrayal of trust and emotions. If the marriage is monogamous and both parties initially agree on that, yet one year later one breaks this agreement despite it being against the other person's wishes - that is betrayal of trust. It bearsabsolutely no reflection on her sexual past prior to the agreement.

In fact I'd go as far as to say that if a woman were in a position of inferiority in a relationship (ie. virgin while her husband is not) she would be more likely to cheat. There'd always be an underlying feeling of 'missing out'.

Then again, perhaps she wouldn't, but her sexual needs would always be less satisfied than someone who has already done all the experimentation she wants to do in her life.

It doesn't matter if your partner has slept with anyone before, since who they were and what they did before they met you is not your business - but once you've got together and agreed to be in a closed relationship (ignoring open relationships where it all gets a bit more complicated) you've committed to being monogamous with that person - so to sleep with other people in a closed relationship constitutes lying to the partner. The two are completely different and to try and suggest people should be ok with cheating because they're ok with their partner having a life before they met suggests you don't really have an argument why people should be virgins before getting together; it's a false-equivalence that requires you to not be able to differentiate between being single and being in a relationship.

Again you didnt answer the question but answered as if I had said something different and mentioning how breaking trust and lying is bad again. Without being able to address what I said anywhere, my question is why have this agreement of your partner not sleeping with others in place to be broken, or not, in the first place, if sex does not matter.

"but once you've got together and agreed to be in a closed relationship" Why do you want to agree to this if your partner sleeping with other people does not matter?

It is not a false equivalence or a lack of "argument" it is a question which so far no one has been able to answer, but instead sidestep and talk about how breaking trust is bad, without addressing my question as to why should this agreement be in place in the first place.

If you dont understand let me give an example. "my partner and I agreed she shouldnt eat cheese, she ate cheese so i dumped her" "why did you have that agreement for her not to do that in the first place?" "because it's breaking the trust and wrong that she went against our agreement!" see, the last line doesnt make sense.

So now if you understand that, if you say your partner having slept with others does not matter, why do you need to have the agreement that they should not whilst you are together?

That is some really awful logic. Anyway, it's not true. Virgins almost never cheat on their husbands, because they saved themselves for that special someone who truly matters to them and are happy with their choice.

Read through this study for empirical backing:

http://socialpathology.blogspot.co.uk/2010/09/infidelity-part-1.html

The ideal alpha right wing male (like Nigel Farage) has impregnated many women, even risked STDs and is essentially a man slut.

The ideal right wing woman remains a virgin till marriage, or possibly even death.

Do you have any better sources, considering in that one (quote from link) "the conclusions are based on the characteristics of roughly 24 women".

I would hope any students would know that's way too small, without even getting into the problem of relying on people who are dishonest with their partners being honest on a survey...

You're actually just dense aren't you?

The alpha man finds one woman, makes a good choice finding that woman, creates a family with her and focuses his time on greater pursuits, like a business or politics. Exactly how Nigel Farage has done, the opposite to what Nick Cleggg has done. Look at the two extremes to see what kind of man someone should be.

No Farage has a harem

http://politicalscrapbook.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/nigel-farage-women-pregnant.jpg

I think he was joking. If not, I've lost a lot of respect for him.

No it was for a Belgian magazine a while back.

I have more respect men are meant to be virile

Search that blog for infedility, he writes quite a lot about these kind of social issues.

you actually have nothing intelligent to say, no valid response, either cannot address or cannot even understand what I am saying (I know you tried but failed before), and so can only resort to insults. I hope you get a small amount of satisfaction still though in anything you say despite not being able to properly have a conversation.

Coming from a woman's viewpoint, you sound like you're so far up yourself that you've turned inside out...

Are you trying to say that if you met the perfect women for you, you would let her go simply because she had the audacity to sleep with other guys *gasp* in the 21st century no less *double gasp* before she met you??

If so, then good luck finding yourself a girl who can stomach the misogynistic bull**t that you're coming up with.

It doesn't matter if your partner has slept with anyone before, since who they were and what they did before they met you is not your business - but once you've got together and agreed to be in a closed relationship (ignoring open relationships where it all gets a bit more complicated) you've committed to being monogamous with that person - so to sleep with other people in a closed relationship constitutes lying to the partner. The two are completely different and to try and suggest people should be ok with cheating because they're ok with their partner having a life before they met suggests you don't really have an argument why people should be virgins before getting together; it's a false-equivalence that requires you to not be able to differentiate between being single and being in a relationship.

Literally, you can't be this stupid. Oh my good God. Please tell me you're winding me up. Your comprehension skills can't be this bad, or you couldn't type proper sentences.

Someone, please back me up here, I feel like I'm going mad with this guy.