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Reply 20
best scottish uni? well depends what subjects i guess...edinburgh is pritty crap for economics wheras st a's is really good for int relations....dundee is known for its medicine degree

traditional unis like edinburgh and st a's are valued most in the rest of the uk anyway
supernova2
You guys mean Prince William lol. And yeah Edinburgh is better than St Andrews imo. I suppose youre right shady probably have of our country havent heard of most the ivy leagues just places like Harvard, Princeton, MIT etc.


MIT isnt in Ivy League.

Neither is Stanford nor UCLA (just in case you were wondering :wink:)
Reply 22
Prince Bilyam, that's it. Is it normal to not want to go to St. Andrew's b/c he went there -- Heard St. A's was kinda elitist. Or is that a load of steaming dog ****.
its a somewhat average Uni.

overall its placed around 20th (out of nearly a hundred i think).

dunno if it specialises in anything really..probably does? has a lot of Private School people there according to statistics so that could be part of the "elite" presumption.

otherwise people would def. be more impressed if you went to a place like Warwick/UCL etc.
Okay people, come now, St. Andrews may not be the same as Oxbridge, but if you don't know that much about it, please don't make such assumptions. lol. Last year, applications were 1:11, and their international relations program is known worldwide.

And if you base your educational undertakings and opinions solely based on rankings and heresay, you are quite a sad person indeed. Yes, reputation can be important, but it's not life or death.
unless of course it means you wont be able to get a job.

and so what if applications were 11:1.
many places have much higher applications.

St.Andrews is overrated. sure you might like parts about it like the 4 yr programs or w/e..

yes it may be an ok Uni..but dont delude yourself..its not amazing (ill just assume its v.good at I.R though).
People who are the most successful didn't always attend the most prestigious unis... sure, a lot of them did, but a lot of them didn't. It really comes a lot more down to your own innate ability and talent.

But clearly you are very focused on career and prestige and I wouldn't want to take that away from you. But the people who become widely famous and successful and rich are more the people who never gave up, in my opinion. But obviously, if you can get in an Ivy and really want to go there, by all means go. Just make sure it's for the right reasons.
depends.

if some one is smart he would usualy have looked into the possibilty of studying @ USA.

besides..USA Unis are constantly being mentioned in most TV shows.

for example i learned that Brown was an Ivy League Uni from Family Guy of all shows lol.
abrp
depends.

if some one is smart he would usualy have looked into the possibilty of studying @ USA.

besides..USA Unis are constantly being mentioned in most TV shows.

for example i learned that Brown was an Ivy League Uni from Family Guy of all shows lol.


ahaha yeah same for me, when Brian goes back to uni.
ebonyphoenix
People who are the most successful didn't always attend the most prestigious unis... sure, a lot of them did, but a lot of them didn't. It really comes a lot more down to your own innate ability and talent.

But clearly you are very focused on career and prestige and I wouldn't want to take that away from you. But the people who become widely famous and successful and rich are more the people who never gave up, in my opinion. But obviously, if you can get in an Ivy and really want to go there, by all means go. Just make sure it's for the right reasons.



Sorry ebonyphoenix. You may like St. Andrews but that doesn't change it's academic status. It hasn't cracked the UK top 10 in years. It's overrated and looking for foreign $$$. Period. If you want to go there, then go there, but don't pretend that St. Andrews is just lacking prestige. It's an average UK university and is actually worse than many of the average US universities!
Reply 30
abrp
depends.

if some one is smart he would usualy have looked into the possibilty of studying @ USA.


That's rubbish, really very few British sixth-formers even contemplate the idea of applying to the States, and those that do are overwhelmingly from public schools or from families with American roots.
Reply 31
Or on American Studies/ EAP programs, which don't necessarily include all the smartest students.
shady lane
Sorry ebonyphoenix. You may like St. Andrews but that doesn't change it's academic status. It hasn't cracked the UK top 10 in years. It's overrated and looking for foreign $$$. Period. If you want to go there, then go there, but don't pretend that St. Andrews is just lacking prestige. It's an average UK university and is actually worse than many of the average US universities!


Well, we will have to agree to disagree then. But I think you are making a mistake in claiming it's actually worse than many of the average US universities, to be honest. You know because? Have you actually been to St. Andrews? The students I have corresponded with currently in attendance seem pretty brilliant to me... so are you claiming below average unis attract students with great credentials? I am confused as to what you are trying to say frankly.
arkbar
Or on American Studies/ EAP programs, which don't necessarily include all the smartest students.


if you say so.

i would be suprised if your average Oxbridge applicant however has never heard of eg Columbia or Duke.
yeah, I would be too. Based on who I spoke with in Cambridge, at least.
abrp
if you say so.

i would be suprised if your average Oxbridge applicant however has never heard of eg Columbia or Duke.


Columbia, maybe. Duke, probably not. Everyone in Oxford I met knew Harvard, Stanford, Yale, MIT, and Princeton. After that things got a bit fuzzy.
Reply 36
shady lane
Sorry ebonyphoenix. You may like St. Andrews but that doesn't change it's academic status. It hasn't cracked the UK top 10 in years. It's overrated and looking for foreign $$$. Period. If you want to go there, then go there, but don't pretend that St. Andrews is just lacking prestige. It's an average UK university and is actually worse than many of the average US universities!


An 'average' US university will undoubtedly have more money than an 'average' UK one, but it is questionable whether that really affects its 'academic status' (if by that you mean how good an education you receive there as opposed to what elitists like yourself think of it). Your opinion seems to be based purely on newspaper rankings and a bit of hearsay. There is not some huge divide between, say, 8th and 11th or whatever. Hardly a solid basis for your authoritative 'It's overrated and looking for foreign $$$. Period'. Having read a number of your posts on similar topics in the past, I can only conclude that you are a trememdous snob with a penchant for sciolism....
ebonyphoenix
Well, we will have to agree to disagree then. But I think you are making a mistake in claiming it's actually worse than many of the average US universities, to be honest. You know because? Have you actually been to St. Andrews? The students I have corresponded with currently in attendance seem pretty brilliant to me... so are you claiming below average unis attract students with great credentials? I am confused as to what you are trying to say frankly.


I am telling you as someone who currently lives in the UK. St. Andrews is not considered a top university. In fact, many people have said it's where rich kids who can't get into Oxbridge, Durham, Bristol, or Nottingham go. The quality of foreign students at St. Andrews is much higher than the quality of students from the UK, with the exception of Scottish students who don't want to leave home and can't get into Edinburgh. Many of their offers are ABB, which to me doesn't suggest it's for students with "great credentials." It's a good university, but certainly not a great one. I would argue that Georgetown, which I think is kind of average, is a better university than St. Andrews, simply due to the caliber of professors, the resources available to students, and the extremely strong School of Foreign Service.

Anyway, my point is, if you really want to go there, then go. But be aware of what it's academic reputation is. Don't be fooled by ancient Scottish architecture.
You can't be serious?! Why in the world would you consider Georgetown to be average??? It's one of the top US colleges and they're amazing for PolySi! And no, I'm not a Gtown student or applicant, but there's no way that you could call it average! If it were average, then Stanford wouldn't be great either but merely slightly above average.
Reply 39
To come back to the original topic: the Harvard Interview

My friend just had his interview and it lastet four hours!!! Yes, the interviewer and my friend talked for nearly four hours. I suppose it´s a good sign having such a long interview. I think it depends on how well you get on with your interviewer. I had the chance to get to know him and so I´ll choose him for my interview too.

I would calculate with every possible question about anything and if you say for example you like Immanuel Kant or someone make sure you know why.

And dress yourself in a casual way.

Good Luck for you :smile:

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