Iranian Parliament Speaker&#x27;s Adviser - &quot;Israel should be annihilated&quot;

Original post by david9640

Surely 'flowers and kisses' refers to a funeral? It's awfully transparent though that once again you ignore the main points being made.

'Surely'

Sorry I read it differently and as he does not mention 'graves' but does mention 'sending them on their way'

But you do know don't you there are mothers who actively encourage their children to kill themselves and I believe this is who he is talking about

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Original post by MagicNMedicine

As we always hear by the pro-Trident lobby, nuclear weapons are essential as a deterrent.

Israel has nuclear weapons and thus will be protected by the deterrent.

/Endthread

Well it's a fair argument in this case really. Isrsel has a powerful military, a second strike capable deterrent and a hyperpower for an Ally. I'm sure they can survive some offensive rhetoric.

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LockheedSpooky

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Original post by Aj12

Well it's a fair argument in this case really. Isrsel has a powerful military, a second strike capable deterrent and a hyperpower for an Ally. I'm sure they can survive some offensive rhetoric.

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It's also the size of Wales and would be paralysed by one strike.

Interesting to see that you think Israel should just sit back and accept the situation of a country which sponsors more terrorist groups than any other, which is actively on a daily basis trying to surround Israel's borders with their forces and makes daily threats of genocide.

This coupled with the ever-growing threat of their nuclear programme which is subject to the most ridiculously loose inspection regime.

If it's one thing that Jews and Israelis have learned, be it from Hitler, Nasser or now Iran - when a madman or regime threatens to wipe you out - BELIEVE THEM.

Hopefully Israel will take action against this rotten regime soon. Enough is enough.

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anarchism101

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Oh, so they called for a state to be dissolved. So does the constitution of the Republic of Ireland, for the record.

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anarchism101

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Original post by The Dictator

There have been many settler and colonial states in the world...I guess we shouldn't take white Southern African property owners or any of the South American countries seriously either.

Except these states do not still pursue colonialist policies. They are not trying to colonise further territory, nor do they privilege the settler population (not formally, at least). Most of these countries have also formally accepted the wrongs of the colonial period, and have accepted that land reform must occur in some form. There's none of this in Israel/Palestine.

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LockheedSpooky

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Original post by anarchism101

Except these states do not still pursue colonialist policies. They are not trying to colonise further territory,

That sounds like what the Muslims are doing in several countries.

Do you think Iran has colonised Lebanon? a once Christian, democratic country now Muslim-dominated with bus loads of Shias brought in to boost their population?

Iranian colonisation attempt in Yemen?

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Original post by anarchism101

Oh, so they called for a state to be dissolved. So does the constitution of the Republic of Ireland, for the record.

No they called for it to be annihilated

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Illiberal Liberal

Original post by LockheedSpooky

This coupled with the ever-growing threat of their nuclear programme which is subject to the most ridiculously loose inspection regime.

Read: most intrusive inspections regime in history.

The irony of Israel not even being a signatory to the NPT yet having developed hundreds of nuclear weapons, then crying wolf when Iran pursues a nuclear energy program (as verified by basically every intelligence agency on the earth) - never fails to amuse me. :rolleyes:

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Original post by saeed97

I dislike Iran a lot, but when they have been constantly threatened by Israel (and its friends) and are worried about an invasion or being bombed as a result of their nuclear development then i can understand the dislike between the nations.

Iran is a good country, Cradle of civilization, culturally rich, 2,500 year old administration, it's just been twisted towards radical Islam by the meddling west. Israel however was just the illegal theft of land and the dumping of Jews by colonial administrators who wanted Jews out of their hands. Israel is now trying to wipe out the previous inhabitants and nobody is allowed to say anything about it.

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Original post by Plutonian

Iran is a good country, Cradle of civilization, culturally rich, 2,500 year old administration, it's just been twisted towards radical Islam by the meddling west. Israel however was just the illegal theft of land and the dumping of Jews by colonial administrators who wanted Jews out of their hands. Israel is now trying to wipe out the previous inhabitants and nobody is allowed to say anything about it.

Yep i agree.

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Original post by Plutonian

Iran is a good country

Oh for the love of god

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran

And I note you always blame the 'west' for issues in the muslim world (which is odd as the 'west' didn't really become an idea until after the 2nd world world war and the creation of the UN and the muslim world has been a hole since the ottoman empire started it's decline

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Original post by BaconandSauce

Oh for the love of god

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran

And I note you always blame the 'west' for issues in the muslim world (which is odd as the 'west' didn't really become an idea until after the 2nd world world war and the creation of the UN and the muslim world has been a hole since the ottoman empire started it's decline

Here's your reply JIDF boy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Persian_Oil_Company

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Original post by BaconandSauce

Oh for the love of god

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran

And I note you always blame the 'west' for issues in the muslim world (which is odd as the 'west' didn't really become an idea until after the 2nd world world war and the creation of the UN and the muslim world has been a hole since the ottoman empire started it's decline

And FYI the concept of the "west" began with the division of the Roman Empire. The western half was literally called the "Western Empire". The "west" became a general term for cultures centered around the Latin interpretation of Christianity as opposed to the Orthodox version in the eastern half. Eventually western Europeans found out that there was land further east of the Byzantine Empire so the East became a catch all term for "anything east of Constantinople". Over the years this has included, Orthodox Christianity, Confucianism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam and more recently Communism. while "western culture" has shifted from Christianity based to capitalism based. Between the fall of Rome and the 19th century Europe was too at war with itself to meddle in the affairs of developed Eastern powers until their technological advancements enabled them to meddle and meddle they did, engineering the breakup of the Ottoman Empire, the overthrow of the Iranian Shah and dismantling of the last Chinese Empire.

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Original post by Plutonian

Here's your reply JIDF boy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Persian_Oil_Company

So the 'west' has now become an oil company

and did you really call me a Jew Israeli Defense Force Boy?

Poor form but them from someone who calls Iran a good country it's hardly surprising.

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Original post by Plutonian

And FYI the concept of the "west" began with the division of the Roman Empire.

The 'west' as a geographical notion yes not as a political one

Geographical ideas are incapable of 'melding' in foreign countries as you claimed

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