Yeah, a middle-aged man is sending sexual texts to a 17 year old girl. So what?

She didn't initiate because he texted her first. But I have already said how I feel about the situation on the other page.

As a 17-year old, I assure you that I am not mature enough to have sexual relations with a person even five years my senior. (And now I'm waiting for the "you don't speak for all 17-year olds" counter-argument.)

There's an abundance of scientific research out there to demonstrate how humans do not reach adulthood until a much later age than traditionally imagined.

In fact, the figure's estimated to range from 21-25. As I'm sure you're aware, physical maturity is by no means an indicator of emotional maturity. Nor is it a justification to want to have sex with an adolescent. Simply finding a 17-year old sexually attractive is different.

Although the case that you've mentioned is abhorrent, and deserved more coverage due to the injustice of it all, Simon Danczuk is mentioned specifically because he holds a great deal of influence and is a figure of authority and power. It's a story.

Moreover, your choice of discussing Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher is nothing short of cherry picking.

Wait, what? What's anti-feminist about this?

I wasn't talking about that (I got that), I was talking about this bit:



Sorry if that wasn't clear (that sounds super sarcastic and it's really not meant to)

Nonono, that's not what I was referring to, I identify as a feminist and am always strongly opinionated on things like this - I was referring more to the attitudes shown in threads like this, i.e. 'feminism = male victims being ignored while female victims are lauded LOL EQUALITY BANTZ FEMINAZIS' etc. etc. I mean that threads like this are often an excuse to bash ygm

I am being hyperbolic. But you do slut shame women. You did it in this thread. The Muslims abusers, like in Rotehrum, justify their actions because they see western women as sluts and not deserving of respect.

I'm not saying you are a rapist. Sorry of it it came across that way.

I partly agree that comparing herself to the Rotherum victims is not really credible considering she only received some explicit texts compared to more serious physical sexual abuse and rape.

She's not an adolescent. She's 17.

He is in a position of trust so it is a "scandal". The girl seemed like a plant. From the texts given in the Mail she seemed to be very much on the front foot, then she states she felt "vulnerable" when "he" started sending her dirty texts

There I was just stating the legal position on a middle aged man doing sex things with a 17 yr old girl. It isn't illegal in our society. I also said it is general taboo so their is a moral dubiousness to it. I agree that is entirely different when the man is an interviewer. Plus he just kind fo sprung it on a girl out of now where which makes it a consent issue as well.

But, whilst morally questionable, it isn't actually illegal. (I don;t agree you should do that though.)

Ahhh right okay, I thought you were saying it with specific reference to Danczuk, sorry about that

I agree, if he hadn't been in a position of trust, legally he'd be in the clear.

Not the thread itself (I very much agree with the point that was made by OP, which was that male victims are treated completely unfairly), but some of the attitudes often shown on threads like these, e.g. saying that Danczuk's suspension was wrong and caused by 'feminazis' because he did nothing wrong, there's nothing wrong with a middle aged man and a teenage girl you feminazi scum!!! (which I actually don't care about given she's legal and consenting) when in reality he did (position of power/trust)

Fine, I will retract that, but it angers me that he could potentially have a permanent suspension (while I am no Labour voter but still) from his job is dangerous. It sends out the wrong signals that girls can put themselves out there, play the victim card and destroy lives.

Fine, I will retract that, but it angers me that he could potentially have a permanent suspension (while I am no Labour voter but still) from his job is dangerous. It sends out the wrong signals that girls can put themselves out there, play the victim card and destroy lives.

Adolescence ends between ~19 and ~25.

Initiated the 'sexting', the evidence is plain to see if you have read the texts. What she is doing could actually get him fired. I am not a Labour supporter but if she succeeds in this (as many women do) it is a real low point for society.

And in reasonable discussion those people get ignored - I haven't seen a "feminazi hur hur hur womens activist scum" post on many of these egalitarian (or as you'd probably say anti-feminist) threads. Of course a few people are going to have radical views like that and that's life, whether or not it's acceptable. Same as you'll have people, possibly feminists commenting on threads like these asking why such issues bother OP "because you're male" etc. I'm yet to research on whether he was in a legal position of power/trust so I can't really make a valid conclusion based off of the information I've looked at at the moment.

Not doing this.

He still is legally in the clear! (I think)

Just the labour party, like most organizations would, are clamping down on him.