UK degree vs US degree
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First of all if you have a levels or IB then the US degrees will be more like 3 years than 4 due to advanced standing.
Secondly on the top end of uni's for engineering the US is better, they have much much larger endowments along with there being a greater demand for engineers in the US.
As for masters degrees, British degrees are usually favoured IIRC.
Secondly on the top end of uni's for engineering the US is better, they have much much larger endowments along with there being a greater demand for engineers in the US.
As for masters degrees, British degrees are usually favoured IIRC.
Original post by God_X
UK universities are **** compared to their Ivy League counterparts. Harvard, Yale and MIT are in a different world compared to the likes of Oxbridge... Therefore, a degree from the USA is worth much more.
You don't have a clue what you're talking about...
This is a multi-layered question, as not only are you comparing UK vs US education, but also qualifying factors to work in Canada, and even then the differences between whether you are a citizen of Canada or not. The best bet is not to look for your answer over here in TSR, but rather on Canadian websites or outlets which discuss the engineering profession and the steps to qualify as (their equivalent) Charted Engineer. You also need to look into a VISA or Green Card if you wish to work in Canada, unless you are a citizen from there (in which case I'd think really hard before deciding to venture into international study).
If you are from the UK, the Engineering schools in Europe are wonderful, and cheaper than the expensive US schools, since Engineering is a very expensive subject (only behind Medicine). However, don't think that you have to study longer if you attain a place at an American Engineering School, you can skip up to a year depending on your A-levels as they allow you to sit a test before your courses start so that you can advance to the next class. Furthermore, an integrated Masters (provided you are able to stay in the same University) will only be a year, rather than if you transfer to another American Graduate School where the Masters programme might be 2 years, like most subjects. Engineering is an exception in this regard, that it can be done in 4 years in the US as 4 years in the UK, provided you are able to skip a year with your A-level knowledge (an integrated Engineering masters is 5 years in the US, compared to 6 years if you transfer to a different Engineering school).
If you are from the UK, the Engineering schools in Europe are wonderful, and cheaper than the expensive US schools, since Engineering is a very expensive subject (only behind Medicine). However, don't think that you have to study longer if you attain a place at an American Engineering School, you can skip up to a year depending on your A-levels as they allow you to sit a test before your courses start so that you can advance to the next class. Furthermore, an integrated Masters (provided you are able to stay in the same University) will only be a year, rather than if you transfer to another American Graduate School where the Masters programme might be 2 years, like most subjects. Engineering is an exception in this regard, that it can be done in 4 years in the US as 4 years in the UK, provided you are able to skip a year with your A-level knowledge (an integrated Engineering masters is 5 years in the US, compared to 6 years if you transfer to a different Engineering school).
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Original post by s.a.u
as if. harvard, yale and MIT will NEVER be oxford, cambridge and imperial
Harvard Yale MIT>>>>>>>>>>>Imperial
I can't emphasize that enough. How is Imperial in any way better than the 3?
Just a thought, OP and everyone else is mentioning USA unis, but do they work in exactly the same way as Canadian unis, where OP wants to work? 
okay, maybe not imperial, but harvard and yale were set up specifically to emulate oxford and cambridge, both of which are over 500 years their respective seniors. besides, harvard and yale are probably extremely cliquey and care too much for legacy applicants. also, they are overpriced, massively
Original post by Clare~Bear
Just a thought, OP and everyone else is mentioning USA unis, but do they work in exactly the same way as Canadian unis, where OP wants to work?
This is exactly what I thought until I started speculating that the OP is afraid not getting a spot in a top-tier Canadian university. That being said, competition for spots in Canadian universities, especially for Engineering, makes it difficult for international students to get in.
Original post by Helloworld_95
First of all if you have a levels or IB then the US degrees will be more like 3 years than 4 due to advanced standing.
This is not always true.
Original post by s.a.u
as if. harvard, yale and MIT will NEVER be oxford, cambridge and imperial
Why else would the likes of Imperial, UCL and LSE have such a great proportion of international students to home students ratio, despite the price of education at these institutions being similar to Ivy league schools.
This is a list of the winners of the winners of the International Maths Olympiad:
http://www.imo-official.org/results.aspx
China (CHN) are miles apart, having won it more times than any other country.
Owing to costs, it's unlikely many of their students would study abroad, hence choosing to attend unis locally.
However, these Chinese unis are not ranked high in "world" league tables. Instead, the top tend to be English speaking unis from the US because they have more publicity.
Take this article from a London paper:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23969070-most-universities-to-charge-maximum-pound-9000-tuition-fees.do
It's about uni fees in London yet a picture of Oxford is posted!
Imperial is a specialist science uni and not many of their grads would end up working in the media so usually there's very little mention of them.
If one were to open a guide book of London and looked at the Kensington and Chelsea area, they would see the Royal Albert Hall, Hyde Park / Kensington Gardens mentioned but not Imperial even though it's in the same area.
Also Oxbridge was the choice of royal families from the UK and other countries. Is it any wonder St. Andrews' profile has shot up recently?
I have little doubt if Imperial received its fair share of publicity, it'll certainly be up there, possibly even beating Oxbridge on reputation.
http://www.imo-official.org/results.aspx
China (CHN) are miles apart, having won it more times than any other country.
Owing to costs, it's unlikely many of their students would study abroad, hence choosing to attend unis locally.
However, these Chinese unis are not ranked high in "world" league tables. Instead, the top tend to be English speaking unis from the US because they have more publicity.
Take this article from a London paper:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23969070-most-universities-to-charge-maximum-pound-9000-tuition-fees.do
It's about uni fees in London yet a picture of Oxford is posted!
Imperial is a specialist science uni and not many of their grads would end up working in the media so usually there's very little mention of them.
If one were to open a guide book of London and looked at the Kensington and Chelsea area, they would see the Royal Albert Hall, Hyde Park / Kensington Gardens mentioned but not Imperial even though it's in the same area.
Also Oxbridge was the choice of royal families from the UK and other countries. Is it any wonder St. Andrews' profile has shot up recently?
I have little doubt if Imperial received its fair share of publicity, it'll certainly be up there, possibly even beating Oxbridge on reputation.
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Ok I have cross checked the equivalency of UK degree with US and it showed me that UK masters is equal to US masters and so is the case in Canada.I checked this from www.wes.org
So don't worry people UK degrees are world class
So don't worry people UK degrees are world class
Original post by dwarfwarri
Hi guys,
Is the masters degree in the UK equivalent to the masters degree obtained from the US? Or is it something else entirely? If I get an MSc and a BEng from the UK will I be able to use those degrees to get my engineering license in Canada for work? How about the UK BEng degree (3yrs ) vs the BEng (4 yrs) in US? How do these programs compare?
Thanks
Is the masters degree in the UK equivalent to the masters degree obtained from the US? Or is it something else entirely? If I get an MSc and a BEng from the UK will I be able to use those degrees to get my engineering license in Canada for work? How about the UK BEng degree (3yrs ) vs the BEng (4 yrs) in US? How do these programs compare?
Thanks
Yes they are.I verified it with a payment at wes.org.
UK masters is equivalent to a US masters degree
I guess all of the LSE, Imperial, Kings, Manchester, Birmingham, Sheffield, Durham, Exeter and UCL grads should use their degree's as toilet paper then?
Original post by dugdugdug
This is a list of the winners of the winners of the International Maths Olympiad:
http://www.imo-official.org/results.aspx
China (CHN) are miles apart, having won it more times than any other country.
Owing to costs, it's unlikely many of their students would study abroad, hence choosing to attend unis locally.
However, these Chinese unis are not ranked high in "world" league tables. Instead, the top tend to be English speaking unis from the US because they have more publicity.
Take this article from a London paper:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23969070-most-universities-to-charge-maximum-pound-9000-tuition-fees.do
It's about uni fees in London yet a picture of Oxford is posted!
Imperial is a specialist science uni and not many of their grads would end up working in the media so usually there's very little mention of them.
If one were to open a guide book of London and looked at the Kensington and Chelsea area, they would see the Royal Albert Hall, Hyde Park / Kensington Gardens mentioned but not Imperial even though it's in the same area.
Also Oxbridge was the choice of royal families from the UK and other countries. Is it any wonder St. Andrews' profile has shot up recently?
I have little doubt if Imperial received its fair share of publicity, it'll certainly be up there, possibly even beating Oxbridge on reputation.
http://www.imo-official.org/results.aspx
China (CHN) are miles apart, having won it more times than any other country.
Owing to costs, it's unlikely many of their students would study abroad, hence choosing to attend unis locally.
However, these Chinese unis are not ranked high in "world" league tables. Instead, the top tend to be English speaking unis from the US because they have more publicity.
Take this article from a London paper:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23969070-most-universities-to-charge-maximum-pound-9000-tuition-fees.do
It's about uni fees in London yet a picture of Oxford is posted!
Imperial is a specialist science uni and not many of their grads would end up working in the media so usually there's very little mention of them.
If one were to open a guide book of London and looked at the Kensington and Chelsea area, they would see the Royal Albert Hall, Hyde Park / Kensington Gardens mentioned but not Imperial even though it's in the same area.
Also Oxbridge was the choice of royal families from the UK and other countries. Is it any wonder St. Andrews' profile has shot up recently?
I have little doubt if Imperial received its fair share of publicity, it'll certainly be up there, possibly even beating Oxbridge on reputation.
Top UK or US universities spend over 1 Billions USD a year compared to any others.
Original post by FinanceStudent28
This is not always true.
Nowadays most Ivies and top US universities dont give advanced standing just placement. They want their 4 years at 60K per year.
On a separate note, while it is harder to get into a top US uni once there the work is generally easier. Much less research and writing. Just do required reading and lots of quizzes and multiple choice/short answer tests.
I live in the US and am starting towards a BSc in Physics. I've been researching all my options including UK, Germany, and US schools.
One major thing that seems downplayed / less known is that "4-year" degrees in the US for subjects like Engineering and Physics really take 5 or more years to complete. The graduation rate in 4 years in the US varies but can be something like 30%-40% (for all majors). One reason is failure to get required courses, or sequential courses that are only offered in specific semesters. So you could be an excellent student but through no fault of your own be unable to get the classes you need to stay on schedule. Miss one key sequential course and it could add a year.
In the UK, when they say "3 year degree" is it usually really 3 years? I've tried looking for stats and info on this but haven't come up with anything.
One major thing that seems downplayed / less known is that "4-year" degrees in the US for subjects like Engineering and Physics really take 5 or more years to complete. The graduation rate in 4 years in the US varies but can be something like 30%-40% (for all majors). One reason is failure to get required courses, or sequential courses that are only offered in specific semesters. So you could be an excellent student but through no fault of your own be unable to get the classes you need to stay on schedule. Miss one key sequential course and it could add a year.
In the UK, when they say "3 year degree" is it usually really 3 years? I've tried looking for stats and info on this but haven't come up with anything.
Original post by s.a.u
as if. harvard, yale and MIT will NEVER be oxford, cambridge and imperial
Imperial?
Original post by boucy
Well no matter ward when it comes to the best oxford and Cambridge can stand toe to toe to the ivies .
Personally i feel when it come to the mid-tier Uni USA seems to have an edge
But look at the amount your paying
Personally i feel when it come to the mid-tier Uni USA seems to have an edge
But look at the amount your paying
Although surely mid-tier US universities a much less well known than mid-tier UK universities mainly due to the fact that many of the US schools don't have many international students.
Original post by ukmed108
Although surely mid-tier US universities a much less well known than mid-tier UK universities mainly due to the fact that many of the US schools don't have many international students.
Depends how you define mid tier. 25 th ranked in US: UCLA or USC; in UK Nottingham, manchester. Pretty sure USC and UCLA have more name recognition. Add to that liberal arts colleges, Macalester and Holy Cross (24/25) have pretty good international draws. One of the reasons US dominates world rankings is the depth. Not that UK doesnt have great Unis but it cant field 50 of them.
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