There is no such thing as 'islamophobia'

You would still assume all Muslims believe in the same thing and follow ine interpretation. There are some that view most of the Quran as metaphorical. So if you find a verse which says to kill the disbelievers some Muslims will agree with it which are fine to hate whilst others take a more moderate perspective.

Basically don't generalise.

Honestly there's not much room for interpretation in that passage and many besides.

Not arguing that many Muslims don't agree 100% with some of the brutality, but then I have to question why they follow the rest of the religion. Idk. I couldn't just 'overlook' something like that ygm?

In thay passage I think there is. But anyways that's not the point. They don't necessarily overlook the controversial verses but interperate the verses in a more peaceful way which why many Muslims aren't on a non-Muslim killing spree.

Most Muslims who are not on a killing spree are not doing so because of morality, something that conflicts with the teachings of Islam in many regards, not wholesomely, but is something instilled through education, living in certain civilisations like Western civilisation, culture and their socio-economic standing.

Just because they're not out there killing people it does not mean they do not sympathise with those that do, or think that they are heroes. People simply keep their true feelings and beliefs within until they are triggered.

Look at Brexit for example. There were a minority of racists who would keep their feelings quiet on various topics but once Brexit occurred they thought they then had been given permission to go and act upon those desires and views in the public sphere.

The situation in Turkey is very alarming because Erdogan called his Islamist AKP followers to the streets and they duly obliged, beating to death soldiers in their streets whilst chanting Allahu Akbar and dancing around like neanderthal barbarians from the stone age.

How do you know whether they all do or do not sympathise?

And when an Islamist goes and rips the head off of an incident 'infidel' what do we call them then?t.

It's nonsense. When Islamists commit horrific crimes people like to come out with the religion of peace nonsense, disassociate the warped lunatics from the religion but when they're the victims its because of their religion. What utter rubbish. The reality is it is to do with their religion in both cases. They commit horrific crimes in the name of a backward 7th century neanderthal religious ideology and the people with the ability to think for themselves on a logical and rational basis do not fear it, they despise it because of how backward it is.

Idiots in the modern world like to mix 'fear' with hatred of something. Yes, I hate an ideology that treats women as second class subhumans to fall in line. I hate an ideology that mutilates human beings before they're of age to give consent or because of their gender. I hate an ideology that thinks its okay to cut off the heads of innocents whilst shouting Allahu Akbar at people like primitive neanderthals from the year 700. I hate an ideology that thinks its only mission is expansionism and destruction of all non-believers in its path. I hate an ideology that has an utter contempt for modern civilisation and wants to undermine democracy and many of the things we embrace on a daily basis. There is nothing irrational about such a hatred. Its all logical and rational. Far more rational in fact than believing in some false God and that you'll go to a place called heaven if you listen to what he said. Yes, I had imaginary friends as well as a child. Guess what happened then? I ****ing grew up. Incredible stuff, isn't it?

All ideologies, be they political or religious, are nothing more than tools and control mechanisms to manipulate the vulnerable or make the stupid fall in line. Anyone defending such nonsense is just as bad as them as you are giving a free pass to this outdated and backward rubbish. Of course, politicians don't want that do they? Because the religious are some of the dumbest and most gullible people on the planet who believe things without evidence or facts.

Still waiting for Christians to enlighten me about how Noah's wonderful air conditioning system on the ark managed to keep all the polar bears nice and cold whilst all the camels nice and warm? What's that answer? God works in mysterious ways. Its time that the non-religious people started calling out the stupid religious zealots for what they are instead of pandering to their nonsensical fairytale crap that didn't even happen.

I'll probably be banned for the above post now because freedom of speech is not exactly something the religious like unless you're agreeing with their fanatical ********. Go ahead, you'll only be proving my point.

It's very murky territory. Many passages in the Quran go completely against western culture and values... For example 4.34...It is very hard not to be scared of (/not like) people that support this passage, male or female.So surely it is arguable that anti muslim bigotry (not acceptable) is more often than not just a manifestation of dislike of the religion itself (acceptable). ?

would you feel the same if I said there is no such thing as homophobia?

Ok and the commonly used word to describe "anti-Muslim bigotry" or an irrational fear of Muslims and etc is Islamophobia rather than "Muslimophobia"

Absurd political correctness around the criticism of Islam is bad enough as it is without making it worse by conflating hatred against people with criticism of an ideology.

In thay passage I think there is. But anyways that's not the point. They don't necessarily overlook the controversial verses but interperate the verses in a more peaceful way which why many Muslims aren't on a non-Muslim killing spree.

Well, that is obviously false .

If someone goes and tears a hjab off a persons head or fire bombs a mosque then I think it is safe to say that is "Islamophobic".

However, I am not going to bury my head in the sand and pretend that Muslims are not subject to unjust harassment due to a irrational fear of their religion.

So what would you call the people who attacked and killed innocent Muslims after 9/11 happened? They were Islamophobic and you can not say otherwise.

Well there is such a thing if it's in the dictionary. Lol.

Ok and the commonly used word to describe "anti-Muslim bigotry" or an irrational fear of Muslims and etc is Islamophobia rather than "Muslimophobia"

You would still assume all Muslims believe in the same thing and follow ine interpretation. There are some that view most of the Quran as metaphorical..

So if you find a verse which says to kill the disbelievers some Muslims will agree with it which are fine to hate whilst others take a more moderate perspective.

If Islamphobia is nonsense then homophobia should be nonsense too

Some people are just weird

If Islamphobia is nonsense then homophobia should be nonsense too

Some people are just weird

You are comparing apples to spoons.

Homosexuality is an innate part of a person, like race, height or eye colour. It is natural and affects no one but the individual (in a consensual adult context).
To criticise someone for being homosexual is like criticising someone for being black.

Islam is an ideology that people choose to subscribe to. It is artificail and can have profound effects on others. The content of that ideology can be analysed and criticised in the context of society, morality, reason, evidence, etc.
Criticising Islam is like criticising fascism. And you wouldn't use "fascistophobe" as a pejorative, would you?