Squatters; how are they allowed to stay LEGALLY?!?

Also, anyone who has studied social policy or social economics will understand the external costs that unoccupied housing has on a community. It's far better that housing stock is used. Otherwise it is just wasteful.

There is something wrong with squatting, its exactly the same as breaking and entering.

Stealing is also the same.

If they break into your home and take it over they should leave when asked, if they do not they should be forcefully removed.

And yes i hope squatters do take my home because then i will round up[ all myh lovely friends who like a fight and beat the **** out of them so hard they never walk again let alone try to steal someones house.

Ah yes, violence is clearly much more civilised than theft, isn't it?

Don't worry, scum like you will die out in a few hundred years, one way or another.

I didn't say anyhting about civilised i said it shouldn't be done either way.

And if these squatters were civilised then surely they would rent there own property or leave as soon as they were tld to go, the fact ius they don't leave straight away.

And violence will die out in a few hundred years apart from being a total idiot i'm not sure how you could have come up with that.

Considering violence has been a part of human civilisation for millenia i don't think a few hundred years will change that.

And if people were not stealing **** violence wouldn't be needed to solve it.

Because one way or another, hierachial society is going to end. And with it violence and aggression.

And one day you will realise that there are more important things than property...

Violence doesn't always co exist within a hierachical society.

If you want something there will always be conflict of some type whether that becomes violent dpends on the people involved and how badly each party wants it.

To be honest you call yourself an anarchist but you're not, in real anarchy there are no laws and violence tends to prevail, hierarchy is what stops people from doing what society considers wrong to other people.

I'm sorry but you idiotic idealism is becoming irritating, viloence will never disappear, especially when society has fallen apart.
Violence is a part of us and also a useful tool if used properly.

And property will always be more important, is there anything more important (other than happiness), but if happiness can coincide with owning property than people wil always be willing to protect their belongings and will never be willing to let people take what's not theirs.

Once again you're confusing anarchism with the media hotword "anarchy" - I suggest you do some reading.

If you think property is that important, you're already beyond hope.

If I went on some round the world trip, your saying strangers can go into my house, change the locks, and then legally own it!?!

That's theft, damn that's worse then normal thief. Why the hell is anyone backing these people up. Yeah I'd like a free house, but you can't just go and take a house even if the owner lives in Spain and only uses it once every 3 years. When someone buys a house and the land connected it's legally there's, you own land which you can pass onto your children, that ownership is absolute. But it seems people can just come and take what you've worked your ass off for because they cba to get a job and pay some damn rent/a mortgage.

Also if you actually answer my questions it wold be nice, and what is more important than property?

I know you weren't asking me but I was quite shocked by that question.
How about family, health, wellbeing?!

one could argue losing your property in this circumstance could cause health issues(stress, aggravating conditions.) and certainly effects your well being. It could also cause strain on a family, since you've lost everything you own basically. People that do this when they know the building has an owner/occupant are scum, it really is that simple. Their disgusting criminals that have found loopholes in some idiotic laws to make it seem legal.

I mean ok if there's a totally abandoned building, yeah homeless people can move in with sleeping bags n the like, but if someone owns a place it's theirs, not yours.

if a house is occupied squatters would be mad to attempt to move in. If it's been empty for an extended time (which they usually have been) then I highly doubt it would cause a family to fall apart and ruin someone's health.

the fact is that the OP has read an article from the daily mail and assumed it's all 100% true and not exaggerated at all when in reality squatters have few rights and are generally people who need somewhere to stay so take advantage of an empty house, and ARE forced to leave unless they've been in the property a very long time.

If I went on some round the world trip, your saying strangers can go into my house, change the locks, and then legally own it!?!

Apparently so, and all they have to do is break in (it tells them to break in on the website, then replace anything broken so that you cannot have them removed for breaking and entering) change the locks (again it tells them to do this on the website, so that the owner of the property has no access to it! (or them)) and finally put a sign in the window (as per it says on their website in OP) and then its pretty much theirs!. and guess what? they can even stake out your house just to make sure your not home!

They can also (according to their website)
- Use your beds
- Use anything in the house
- Use your power/gas/water
- Go through all your documents/personal items
- Re-Designe your whole house (if they want)
- Stop you (or the owner) coming into their own house
- Do nearly anthing they like

and the best part is, its LEGALL!

That's theft, damn that's worse then normal thief. Why the hell is anyone backing these people up. Yeah I'd like a free house, but you can't just go and take a house even if the owner lives in Spain and only uses it once every 3 years. When someone buys a house and the land connected it's legally there's, you own land which you can pass onto your children, that ownership is absolute. But it seems people can just come and take what you've worked your ass off for because they cba to get a job and pay some damn rent/a mortgage.[/

Agreed, but last night i was thinking, they are allowed legally to break in / enter if they dont cause damage, what about if your house has a security system/alarm? surely if you where going to leave your house for more than 1 day you would turn this on?

And thats what i dont get, if these 'people' broke into/entered legally (as they like to call it) and the house alarm started going off and they disabled it either by breaking it or cutting the wires somehow or using the code if they have been going through your documents (as per it says on their website they can LEGALLY DO!) they surely they have broken and entered, surely they would realise that the alarm was acitve to protect the house and the owner obv doesent want them (or anyone else) to get inside?, surely if they did turn it off or break it then that is a crime?

I know you weren't asking me but I was quite shocked by that question.
How about family, health, wellbeing?!

But it says on the governments website that they can't do half of these things. If i set up a website for people called chris and said that you can legally take other peoples stuff because you're called Chris it wouldn't make it true would it?

I already said ahppiness comes before property in another post.

But family doesn't always = happiness some people do not want family.

Health is a part of happiness to most people.

Wellbeing

What is wellbeing?

http://www.squatter.org.uk/ ----> Advisory Service For Squatters, I think you will find they can, and they can do it legally, and basically this website tells them how to do it, with fourms telling them which houses are empty and inviting other squatters into other peoples houses to squatt their.