Thinkíng of applying to some of the Ivies

This really wasn't fair, the guy even said they wanted to go to Africa to do some charity work, unlike you who got stoned everyday (very flimsy paraphasing.) I agree that people aren't grades though, but sometimes thats the only way to relate to people as you may not have similar ideals, but everyone takes GCSEs...

You make assumptions, and making them on a flimsy basis just makes you look stupid.

Why does he want to go to Africa? Special kinship or did he hear that's what people do when they want to get into university? Pointless affectation and absolutely meaningless.

In my opinion, pointing out that I make assumptions on a flimsy basis defends me from having it pointed out that I make assumptions on a flimsy basis due to the fact that it would make whoever retorted in such a way look as though they were simply regurgitating what i said, hence making themselves look stupid.

I agree that they probably want to go to Africa to make himself look better, but you're an idiot if you think it's meaningless, anyone who does humanitarian work in a developing country will have masses of experience from which to draw from as well as a pretty bitchin' thing to put in their personal statement. At first I thought you were just showing off, but now I think you're a cynic, and thus do not really have an opinon of worth (unless this changes from "Err, you're ****, I'm better for not having the same priorities as you, live like i do." Of course, (stupidly) I base this opinion on flimsy evidence. Sorry that this was needlessly long.

******* hell you're fifteen years of age.

You're young and naive and your aspiration is admirable but go and see some trees. Read books. If you're 15 and all you can think to aspire to is to be rich then you need some imagination.

You're not a 'nerd'. You're an individual human spirit with infinite potential and putting yourself into a box and assuming you want to do certain things because of that is destroying your individuality.

******* hell, kids these days. When I was your age I was reading three books a week, experimenting with drugs and girls and having an early life crisis about where my place was in the universe. Yet somehow I think I was less ****** up than kids who obsess over their careers and their futures.

Drones, the lot of you. Get some soul.

It was also needlessly flimsy.

I'd rather hear of somebody doing something interesting for the right reason than doing something 'good' because he thought it'd get him into university.

It was also needlessly flimsy.

I'd rather hear of somebody doing something interesting for the right reason than doing something 'good' because he thought it'd get him into university.

Actually, no. My ultimate goal is to be rich,

The OP hasn't actually clarified yet whether or not they are rich enough to go to an Ivy league. If you're from a normal family without a large inheritance from somewhere you probably won't be able to afford it.

shallow?

I don't see how that's shallow ... are you aspiring to be poor. Hmm, didn't think so. If wanting wealth makes me shallow, then I'll embrace it.

Small point being that for Yale, Harvard, Dartmouth, MIT and Princeton, if you parents earn less than $60,000 combined you are given a free place with no student loans or other fees involved. Just a small point.

Entirely missing the point. Money is no end in itself, either way. Methinks if you want that kind of wealth you need to invest some of your time in thinking more logically.

I'm not sure there really is a point here. I aspire to write bestselling novels and reap the profits from this. Call me stupid, but I don't quite see why a point needs to be made about it ...

Oh okay, I didn't realise that was the threshhold
that's not a lot of money though, I'd say the average people thinking about applying to the Ivies/MIT etc would come from a family with a slightly higher income, but that's just my guess.

Nobody really knows how the system works but if there were two equal students ability & EC wise and one could afford to pay I'd imagine they'd choose the richer one. My elongated point being that getting financial aid is not a really simple process

Nope, having spoken to the Yale admissions officer at length about this I have been reliably informed that they look at money after they make their offers; in fact, you can even get the application fee waived. (And yes, my parents earn well under the threshold- it actually works out cheaper for me to go to the US). As for your last point- you must remember that no two applicants will ever be exactly the same- they'll make their decision based on that and that alone. Then they'll give me my place